Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Schmitz-Moormann

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The result was redirect to Energy 52. Black Kite (talk) 00:58, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Schmitz-Moormann

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Non-notable DJ, fails WP:GNG & WP:DJ. There is a lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. -- Flooded w/them 100s 14:23, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:31, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think you might be showing your age here, Flooded with them hundreds, by describing the subject as "not notable"... under the name of Kid Paul, he was a very well-known trance DJ during the 1990s, playing around the world. Under the alias of Energy 52, he was also responsible for the record "Café del Mar", one of the best-known dance records of all-time, which has charted in at least six different countries and was named best tune ever by the staff of Mixmag back in 2001. Again, this might be a case of a DJ preceding the internet age and reliable sources most likely occurring in print versions of dance magazines in the 1990s and early 2000s. At the very least, I think this should be redirected to Energy 52, pending searches of back issues of Mixmag and the like. Richard3120 (talk) 14:50, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. I cannot find any significant coverage of Kid Paul that is not associated with Energy 52, or with Paul van Dyk. See here and here. Gilded Snail (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This page (such as it is) was moved from Kid Paul a while ago, with the observation he produced under several aliases, so moving to real name. As we already have a (presumably notable) article on him as Energy 52 it'd make more sense to keep this title and merge stuff from there to this, rather than the other way around. He also has an article on the German WP (also, presumably, notable), which could be cribbed to here to flesh this title out. And (with regard to WP:DJ) has a discography as long as your arm in the external links. Swanny18 (talk) 01:47, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure it does make sense to merge the Energy 52 page into this one, because he is far better known under that alias than under his real name. The German Wikipedia article only has two references, one for his year of birth, and the other an interview in which he says he is giving up DJing... not a lot there that can be used to flesh out the English article. And making lots of records isn't really a sign of notability, just productivity. Richard3120 (talk) 02:20, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 15:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relist given the split views and the fact that the final discussion was more "which should merge" rather than a deletion consideration
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 15:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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