Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul R. Gregory

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The result was Speedy Keep. Nominator has withdrawn, unanimous consent to Keep, helpful advice has been given, no reason to keep this up any longer. (non-admin closure) Devonian Wombat (talk) 04:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Paul R. Gregory[edit]

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~~Nonnotable artist;~~ article created by a single-purpose account, with flimsy references Staszek Lem (talk) 01:50, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SPEEDY KEEP Nomination withdrawn after the massive improvement of the article. It is a great pity that the article was sitting here tagged for freaking 5 years! Where have y'all been before? Staszek Lem (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:Staszek Lem Thanks for withdrawing the nomination. Rather than doing the AFD wrecking bar/crowbar — AfD is not cleanup, and this subject rather clearly meets GNG — you might try a different tool I suggest that this would be a good candidate for this week's article for improvement.

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This would be a much more fitting way to resolve this outcome, rather than this misbegotten nomination to delete a clearly notable subject. That's my gentle suggestion, FWIW. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 01:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 01:54, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Lightburst (talk) 01:55, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Lightburst (talk) 15:59, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment this has already been deleted once and redirected another time, under a slightly different name. The original AFD discussion is here.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 02:16, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually this finding leads to another piece of puffery: the redirect was to deleted page also recreated under different name, Bloodstock Open Air. I tagged it for now. Staszek Lem (talk) 04:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I searched about him and he isn't that isolated from the media world. For ex- look at this (the fact that the whole article is about him and his ventures strengthens its case for being kept). In my experience, The Independent never writes an article on someone who is irrelevant. The painter looks to be very respected amongst artists. Considering the fact that painters do not get much attention these days, if he is being covered by publishers like The Independent (which, in general, do not cover regionally renowned peoples), then i think that he is surely notable. Look at the prices of his paintings, these are above average. But the best thing about the subject is this which describes him as "one of the founding fathers of fantasy and heavy-metal art". This artist is way more legendary than what is being perceived. Regards Pesticide1110 (talk) 07:33, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If someone can point out the basic notability guideline for artists and painters, then i may carry out some other checks. Pesticide1110 (talk) 07:33, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:CREATIVE. Mccapra (talk) 10:09, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:CREATIVE#1 non-trivial coverage of this subject also exists. The artist is clearly a leader in his field of work. Some of these sources are passing mention, some are interviews, however collectively they show that the subject passes WP:N Heavy Music Artwork, Tolkien Library, Independent, Master of the Moon: Ronnie James Dio, Trebuchet Magazine Interview, Great album Covers. Lightburst (talk) 15:59, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP Reliable sources give him significant coverage for his artwork. The fact that over 9 years ago this article was redirected somewhere else, has nothing to do with the situation now Dream Focus 23:36, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP Reliable sources. Meets WP:GNG, and that is despite the fact that album cover artists work in the shadows of the performers for whom they illustrate. As the article documents, he is among the most important Tolkien illustrators. Article is now improved from what it was when nominated. WP:Hey. Proving there was no compliance with WP:Before. The article creator's WP:SPA status is now an irrelevancy. Argumentum ad hominen fallacy. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:16, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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