Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick McCarthy (announcer)
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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🎉 (HAPPY 2022) 16:00, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Not enough in-depth coverage from independent sources to pass GNG. Onel5969 TT me 13:37, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Tom McCarthy (sportscaster). Even as a Phillies fan, it's WP:TOOSOON for Patrick McCarthy to have his own article as there's not much coverage for a minor league/college announcer. Plausible to redirect per Template:R from relative. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 13:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Serves as the alternate play-by-play announcer for the Phillies, announces NCAA D1 football and basketball and AAA baseball. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 16:44, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Comment This doesn't automatically make him notable. Notability is not inherited by the organizations someone works for. Qwaiiplayer (talk) 19:52, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Notable announcer per Pennsylvania2. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 19:06, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG per above argument. SBKSPP (talk) 01:18, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep argument is on IAR basis, GNG asserted but not given evidence. No arguments for delete aside from nomination statement. This discussion needs wider participation.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 15:30, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- Weak Delete to encourage creation if Patrick McCarthy becomes notable. I attempted to meet WP:GNG but I could not find three good sources. The two articles I found from WP:RS cover the same event as well so he would be in danger of WP:BLP1E for right now. I have included a source assess with the three most independent sources I could find. snood1205 15:43, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
Source assessment table: prepared by User:Snood1205
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.inquirer.com/phillies/tom-mccarthy-patrick-mccarthy-phillies-broadcaster-philadelphia-20210820.html | The Philadelphia Inquirer is independent from Patrick McCarthy and the Phillies Organization | The Philadelphia Inquirer is a generally reliable news source for Philadelphia related articles | The article is about Patrick McCarthy replacing his father for a weekend announcing basketball | ✔ Yes |
https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/phillies/pat-mccarthy-catch-stands-tom-mccarthy-phillies | ~ NBCSports Philadelphia does write about the Phillies with some independence; however, the Phillies have a 25% ownership stake in the outlet | NBCSports Philadelphia publishes reliable articles about sports in Philadelphia | ~ The article mentions Patrick catching a ball similar to his father, but this entire article is probably not WP:SIGCOV | ~ Partial |
https://thelibertyline.com/2021/08/21/tom-mccarthy-son-phillies-games-padres/ | No known links between the Phillies and Liberty Line | ~ It is from a self-described "independent sports blog and podcast network" so it might not meet WP:RS | SIGCOV however it is the same event as source 1. | ~ Partial |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- Delete. Notability is not inherited; unless there are multiple independent SIGCOV sources on him, a standalone article is unwarranted. JoelleJay (talk) 01:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 13:13, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
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