Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parveen Kaur (Canadian actress)

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The result was delete. This individual may become notable, but consensus is that notability has not been achieved. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 12:04, 17 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Parveen Kaur (Canadian actress)[edit]

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Does not pass notability. Verifiable acting history is three non-starring roles, one of which is in Beyond (2017 TV series), but she is not mentioned in the article about it, and another was only an episode in a series. With such limited roles, there is limited citations in google and in the article. Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 17:13, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. SkyGazer 512 ^{Oh no, what did I do this time?} 19:05, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Her IMDB^[1] says 19 roles. Not sure where "entire acting history is three non-starring roles" is coming from. Also not sure which "article about the film" you are referring to. Her new role is on NBC's new TV show called Manifest which is airing this fall^[2]. Also she had a recurring role on CTV's Saving Hope^[3]. Some more articles from Google:

References

^ "Parveen Kaur IMDB". IMDB.
^ "NBC Picks Up Drama 'Manifest' To Series, Renews 'Blindspot' For Season 4". Deadline.com.
^ "Meet the doctors joining the Hope Zion team in Season 4 of 'Saving Hope'". CTV.ca.

http://www.fearforever.com/film/interview-parveen-kaur/

http://www.vulture.com/2015/08/strain-recap-season-2-episode-4.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrixtonTown (talk • contribs) 1 July 2018 (UTC)

I clarified my initial statement above. Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 19:27, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Frayae. Still not quite sure what else is needed to "pass notability". Can you clarify further please? She's also mentioned in the Manifest (TV Series) Wikipedia page. It's just linking to the wrong Parveen Kaur (in the infobox). She's also on the poster for the show. https://411mania.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/NUP_182993_0007-645x370.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrixtonTown (talk • contribs) 1 July 2018 (UTC)

To pass notability requires some reliable sources that have a reasonably long piece of writing about Parveen Kaur herself. Sources that mention she had such and such role in such and such film are not substantial enough to be used to support the article. I also will point out that Imdb itself or materials published by the film companies or their promoters, should not be used as a reliable source because they are not independent. Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 13:21, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Frayae. Still sounds a bit vague to me but here are a few more found doing a quick Google search. Along with the references and links above I can't see how she doesn't pass notability requirements. As well she was a guest on CP24 Breakfast in Toronto: https://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=1178422. It's pretty obvious to me that she's a Canadian actor based in Toronto.

http://www.northernstars.ca/parveen-kaur/

https://www.ebosscanada.com/10-questions-parveen-kaur/

http://www.misaff.com/misaff17star/

http://www.thetealmango.com/entertainment/parveen-kaur-star-nbcs-latest-mystery-manifest/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrixtonTown (talk • contribs) 17:21, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The notability test for an actor or actress is not the number of roles they've had — an actress can be notable for just one role if she got a Canadian Screen Award or Academy Award nomination for it, and an actor can be non-notable for 100 roles if they were all walk-on and bit parts. The notability test for an actress is the amount of reliable source coverage she's received for having acting roles — but BrixtonTown is not providing reliable sources that are substantively about her. Mere casting announcements don't cut it, because any actor who gets any role can always show those; video clips of her being interviewed on CP24 Breakfast don't cut it, because she's speaking about herself rather than being discussed in the third person by people other than her; profiles in directories like IMDb or Northern Stars don't cut it, because every actor who fits the directory's criteria indiscriminately gets a profile; mere mentions of her existence in coverage of the film or TV show she was in don't cut it, because that's not substantively about her; blogs like The Teal Mango don't cut it because they're blogs; marketing profiles on the websites of film festivals her films have appeared at don't cut it, because those are provided by the actress's own PR agent and not written independently. Reliable sourcing is not necessarily the same thing as just any source that verifies that she exists: all possible sources of information do not count equally as builders of notability. Only certain specific kinds of sources, namely media coverage about her, do that, but the ones being shown here aren't the correct kinds. Bearcat (talk) 20:33, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 15:03, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Bearcat fails WP:NACTOR none of the roles are significant or major roles .In the The Strain (TV series) ,she has appeared in only 4 episodes here .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:59, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Parveen Kaur IMDB". IMDB.

[2] "NBC Picks Up Drama 'Manifest' To Series, Renews 'Blindspot' For Season 4". Deadline.com.

[3] "Meet the doctors joining the Hope Zion team in Season 4 of 'Saving Hope'". CTV.ca.

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