Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parvardigar (Pete Townshend song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to I Am (Pete Townshend album). No evidence of the notability required for stand-alone articles. — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans // 02:46, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Parvardigar (Pete Townshend song)

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Not notable. Lacks coverage independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to I Am (Pete Townshend album). I don't have access to the sources listed in the article. If those have significant coverage it could change my opinion. Searching found nothing helpful. Lacks coverage needed for a separate article. WP:NSONG suggests redirecting to the album. Gab4gab (talk) 18:57, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:34, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spirituality-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:34, 17 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not notable. Just a song no one knows. User:Dazedbythebell

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Redirect or delete?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades^Godric 08:36, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. We shouldn't keep redirects from such convoluted titles. The entry at Parvardigar (disambiguation) will suffice if anyone's searching for it. --Michig (talk) 09:17, 24 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep, and hoping the closer considers a Keep. This song honors a major prayer of Meher Baba, who Townshend has written and dedicated and recorded three albums about. The reason I put 'strong' is that several Meher Baba related pages have been deleted recently, Wikipedia's collection of Meher Baba articles has suffered for it, and am hoping to stem that tide. Plus, Pete Townshend is a major singer/songwriter of his generation and the era, and his single-song pages are fewer than many others working at his level. Randy Kryn 16:57, 26 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep reconsidered SaintAviator lets talk 02:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The above "keep" votes are rather weak (from @Michig: and @SaintAviator:). If anyone wants this to be kept, you should provide sources to support that this has received significant coverage from reliable, third-party resources. Aoba47 (talk) 17:31, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What? I'm in favour of deletion here. --Michig (talk) 19:57, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but I'm not understanding your reasoning "We shouldn't keep redirects from such convoluted titles" since this isn't a redirect, but a song by Pete Townshend released on more than one record. A 'convoluted' title also is going over my head, for it seems concise and descriptive, unless 'Parvardigar (Townshend song)' is more concise (and that would maybe be a better title). The song seems to have made the prayer more prominent, which may have been Townshend's intent, but as a stand-alone page I don't see much wrong with it except a need for a couple of more sources (the one source is a book on Townshend, which should qualify as a good source). Randy Kryn 20:07, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in favour of deleting the article (as indicated) as there is insufficent sourceable encyclopedic content about it. If we decide not to keep the article, the question is then do we keep a redirect with this title. Anyone searching for this song is unlikely to type this title into the search box, they're just going to search for 'Parvardigar', which will take them (eventually) to the disambiguation page, where this song is mentioned. The crux of it is, if nobody had created this article, we wouldn't have created a redirect with this title, so we shouldn't keep a redirect with this title just because someone did create this article.--Michig (talk) 20:56, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Michig: I apologize for my mistake. I intended to ping @Randy Kryn: in my original comment, but accidentally pinged you by mistake. Aoba47 (talk) 14:48, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Ref. Mentions the song. [1] and [2] SaintAviator lets talk 22:10, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The first is a ref to the prayer that there is an article for here. The second ref is to the album CD that there is already an article for here. Dazedbythebell (talk) 11:46, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I am in favor of deletion as there does not appear to be sufficient coverage to support this as notable enough for its own separate article. Aoba47 (talk) 16:05, 28 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: Merge with the EP found here. All the same information is duplicated there. Dazedbythebell (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:39, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: The EP article contains all the info mentioned in the song article. Actually the EP only contains the three versions of this song. Hoverfish Talk 19:54, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the EP article. I would say merge, but as Hoverfish points out all the information is already there. Reyk _YO! 11:25, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.