Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakistan women's national boxing team

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The result was keep. Sandstein 09:55, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan women's national boxing team[edit]

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No such team exists, boxing is an individual sport. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC) I am also nominating the following for the same reasons, as these sports are individual sports.[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Boxing-related deletion discussions. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 23:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural keep There's plenty of sources who disagree with you that there is no such thing as a boxing team. For instance this one, this one, this one, Etc. Etc. My guess is that they are scored as a team for the individual boxing performances. I'm sure the same goes for the other articles. There should really be a more authoritative discussion about this somewhere else besides in an AfD though. Maybe a sports related Wikiproject or something. Which is why I'm going with a procedural keep and no prejudice to doing the AfD again once it's figure out if there is a need for one. --Adamant1 (talk) 05:18, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The information in these pages relates only those competitions where they represent Pakistan as a team i.e. at regional and continental games and championships. They compete for medals which are awarded as part of that sport teams's and Pakistan's tallies. Some sports which may seem individual such karate, shooting and cycling additionally have their own team events (eg. Kata in Karate) at these competitions. In Pakistan, competing as a team is the primary method of participating in sports at the international level even in sports such as boxing. Very few individual Pakistani sportswomen such as Mahoor Shahzad have competed on their respective tours and those competitions are not included here as they are part of their individual careers and do not represent Pakistan per se. I will over time continue to contribute to these pages so as to enlarge them. Khilari&historian (talk) 07:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the Wikipedia article on national teams it states that "However, it can be applied to groups of individuals representing a country where regular play is done by individuals, and individual scores are aggregated to a get a team result." Khilari&historian (talk) 15:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: These articles on Pakistani women's national teams are a useful addition. They now need to be backed up with more sources. In regard to boxing, we have similar articles on men's national teams, e.g. Algeria national boxing team.--Ipigott (talk) 07:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: In any major international event amateur boxers represent their country as part of a national team. It might be an individual sport, but an individual can't compete at the Commonwealth Games, European Championships, Asian Games, Pan American Games, World Championships, or Olympics (just to name a few) if they haven't been selected by a national team. – ².O.^Boxing 11:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know about these sports, but in athletics, another individual sports, national teams certainly exist. The national team is selected annually and consists of a non-fixed number of athletes that the national federation wants to promote that year. Geschichte (talk) 14:31, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Agree it is a useful addition and there is regional coverage.--FrankTursetta (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - enough coverage for each to remain, and as others have pointed out, even though these athletes compete individually, they do represent as a team.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep naturally meets SIGCOV and passes the NCTEST The Ace in Spades (talk) 23:26, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as with all above and the article contains adequate sourcing to meet the GNG. --Goldsztajn (talk) 09:05, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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