Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Our Country Cousin
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The result was keep. I leave the suggested page move to regular editing. RL0919 (talk) 21:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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Apparently non-notable short film, unsourced since October 2007. Newspapers.com only turned up advertisements or theater schedules with no significant coverage and I could not find mentions elsewhere. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:08, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Happy to withdraw my nomination with the sources that have been found - Thank y'all so much! I always learn new research tricks from these nominations. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 15:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 18:08, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Fatty Arbuckle's films have been covered in a variety of books over the years including Rediscovering Roscoe: The Films of 'Fatty' Arbuckle. [1] DonaldD23 talk to me 21:33, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Unless the GBooks search is broken, this book does not seem to mention the film at question. Any chance you have a direct quote or a page number? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 21:43, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
- Delete: Some mention of a play from the 1890s by the same name, nothing found for this film Oaktree b (talk) 23:41, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
At the very least redirect to Roscoe_Arbuckle_filmography#1914(with that source, indicating its survival status is unknown).But not opposed tokeep,especially if other sources can be checked.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 01:28, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- (Changed to full Keep, after checking sources provided by Cunard here and on page. Thanks!)
- Keep For a film that was released in 1914, I think there is enough coverage and independent analysis to support a standalone article.
- Walker, Brent E. (2010). Mack Sennett's Fun Factory: A History and Filmography of His Studio and His Keystone and Mack Sennett Comedies, with Biographies of Players and Personnel. Vol. 2. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 295. ISBN 978-0-7864-7711-1. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Internet Archive.
The book notes: "Our Country Cousins [KC-240] (June 6, 1914) Ir (943/1000 ft.). D: Mack Sennett. C: Unknown. WT: Rube Elopement. A country boy elopes with a farmer's niece pursued by cops, who must rescue the girl when she falls down a cliff. Keystone releases list, NYMPC negative and release records and Motion Picture News all give title as above. Contrary to previous secondary source speculation, Dell Henderson did not direct this film. Previous speculation on the presence of Rube Miller and Charley Chase in the cast is unverified but unlikely, and comes from a secondary source that has proven inaccurate with regard to verifiable Keystone credits. [Filmed 5/8/14-5/18/14; Finished/ Shipped 5/24/14; Rec'd in NY 6/1/14.]"
- "Mutual Program: Our Country Cousins". Motion Picture News. Vol. 9, no. 25. 1914-06-27. p. 68. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Internet Archive.
The article notes: ""Our Country Cousins." (Keystone. Sat., June C.) — The arrival of the cousin at the farm causes a lot of trouble between two of the farm hands. She decides to elope with one and the two go over a precipice. The remainder of the reel is employed in their efforts to get up again. The comedy is sure to produce a laugh, but is not equal to the usual Keystone."
- "Comments on the Films". The Moving Picture World. 21 (1): 65. 1914-07-04. Retrieved 2023-11-19.
The article notes: "Our Country Cousins (Keystone), June 6.— Farm characters and an elopement that has the Keystone flavor and is sure to make laughter. It has unexpected and very funny incidents and will surely make an excellent offering,"
- "The Story of the Films". Kinematograph and Lantern Weekly. Vol. 16, no. 393. 1914-11-05. p. xxv. ProQuest 2594735242.
The article notes: "Our Country Cousins (C). The farmer's niece arrives on a visit and everyone falls in love with her, more so the farmer's two sons. One of the sons decides to kidnap the maiden. He does so, but the priest refuses to marry them, and the Keystone police are forced to give assistance. This they succeed in doing only too well, and the whole thing ends in a glorious scrimmage. Released Dec. 14th, length 1000 ft."
- "Our Country Cousins". The Bioscope. 1914-11-05. p. xli. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Google Books.
The article notes: "Our Country Cousins.—The farmer's niece is carried off by one of his sons and the Keystone police are called in to the pursuit. The niece falls down a cliff, and most of the rest fall down a great number of times in the attempt to rescue her, their antics being certain to cause tumultuous laughter. (December 14th. 1,000 ft.)"
- "Pictoria". Maitland Mercury. 1914-11-19. Archived from the original on 2023-11-19. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Newspapers.com.
The review notes: "The big Keystone comedy "Our Country Cousins" was clever and amusing, the audience being impelled to laughter by the extraordinary antics of "Fatty and Mabel." The comics were good, and the orchestral music with special effects proved an enjoyable feature of the evening."
- "The Lyceum Picture Co". The Riverine Grazier. 1914-10-20. Archived from the original on 2023-11-19. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Newspapers.com.
The review notes: ""Our country cousins," a Keystone comedy, was like many comic films, somewhat overdone, but it was most successful as a mirth producer."
- "Features At Bijou Tonight". Lewistown Daily News. 1914-07-04. Archived from the original on 2023-11-19. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Newspapers.com.
The article notes: ""Our Country Cousins" is another of those screaming Keystone comedies only this is said to be even better than a good many of them."
- "Central Picture Theatre". Folkestone Herald. 1914-12-19. Archived from the original on 2023-11-19. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Newspapers.com.
The article notes: ""Our Country Cousins" was a very funny Keystone release featuring the famous Keystone Police."
- Walker, Brent E. (2010). Mack Sennett's Fun Factory: A History and Filmography of His Studio and His Keystone and Mack Sennett Comedies, with Biographies of Players and Personnel. Vol. 2. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company. p. 295. ISBN 978-0-7864-7711-1. Retrieved 2023-11-19 – via Internet Archive.
- Comment: I expanded and added sources to the article. Cunard (talk) 10:53, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per recent expansion, which together with sources above demonstrates the topic is notable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Has enough reviews per WP:NFILM. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:29, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - indeed reviews are sufficient per WP:NFILM.BabbaQ (talk) 16:12, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep as per WP:HEY as the article has been improved and expanded using multiple reliable sources also identified in this discussion that show significant coverage such as reviews so that WP:GNG is passed in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 01:28, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per expanded sourcing and move to Our Country Cousins which all the sources agree is the actual title. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:25, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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