Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oshawa Civic Band

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The result was no consensus. W.marsh 00:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oshawa Civic Band

Non-notable musical ensemble. Prod tag removed with no explanation. cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 03:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Kappa 03:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Question - Any particular reason why? --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 04:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Any particular reason why not? Kappa 04:36, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I covered that in my nomination. --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 04:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You did? OK, my reason is "notable musical ensemble". Kappa 00:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I don't see any notability hanging around, and the apparently dead link to their site isn't going to help matters. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. EVula 05:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep per Edison's comments. Like he said, WP:MUSIC isn't quite configured to handle something like this, so it should be ignored per WP:IAR. EVula 16:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:MUSIC. Catchpole 09:10, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or Weak Keep WP:Music is not well suited to judge musical groups other than pop music and rock bands. Most brass bands or choral groups, even if they have a national reputation, do not tour or have chart-topping CDs. Their role is as a part of the cultural base of the community. This one has been in place since 1870, and has had a bandroom and bandshell since 1940. They are one of a handful of such in Canada. They receive mention in several online listings of bands and in the Encyclopedia Canada reference. Having an active website is not a requirement for having an article. If Wikipedia has an article for every bus route and subway stop in the world, perhaps there should be a place for a community band such as this. If not, merge the info into Oshawa, Ontario. Edison 18:23, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge. I agree that the criteria in WP:MUSIC do not suit non contempory culture bands well. However, there still has to be some notability beyond existing, eg. awards at competitive meets. Nuttah68 19:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. long-existing band. interesting place in canadian miliary music history. thus notable. Justinpwilsonadvocate 16:10, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Question - How does existing for a long time merit an article? And what in the article indicates that it has an interesting place in Canadian military music history? --cholmes75 ^{(chit chat)} 20:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep I'm not sure what my opinion should be about this, while Edison is correct that it might be unreasonable to apply WP:MUSIC in this case, and a google search turned up some additional sources. JoshuaZ 22:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Might not be a current chart-topper, but has historic significance. --Oakshade 00:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I think that Edison's analysis is correct. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 02:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.