Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Direction's second studio album

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:57, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One Direction's second studio album[edit]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Cliff Smith 18:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a clear breach of WP:CRYSTAL. Half of the information is about the group's history, and any relevant information (such as the tour) is already covered in the One Direction article. A relevant article with the album's name etc. can be created at the appropriate time. Till 03:18, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. The bulk of the article is background information. Additionally, there's no source what-so-ever to show that the 2013 World Tour is in support of this upcoming album. So, without both of those things, the article is a few mentions of recording the album, which can be found or placed on their main article. Statυs (talk) 03:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NALBUMS: No title, no track listing and no release date. Information about this future album should remain at the artist's article until all of those have been verified. Cliff Smith 18:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep what is the point of deleting if your going to have to create it over again. What is speculative about this article. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggest that you read WP:NALBUMS. Cliff Smith 19:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Already read it this entire article is backed by third party reliable sources as per guideline there are no blogs or fansite refs. This article has been up for since 27 June 2012, a month and two days and now its being tagged for deletion. Let me ponder why ow I know why this is why Till didn't seem to have problem with this article as long as it was on her creation list, and since it isn;t anymore she/he has problem with it. There is nothing speculative on this article if so point it to me AdabowtheSecond (talk) 23:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - It has already been pointed out to you—WP:CRYSTAL. And nobody is disputing that the sources are unreliable. There is no title, confirmed tracks, release date, etc. thus violates policy. Till 00:17, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      - This is a load of BS, I should've let you keep it on your creation list so you could have better chances of getting Autopatrolled. I'm so sorry you feel the need to tag it for deletion after a month. No editor tagged it for deletion when I launched not even SplashScreen, I wonder why? This article is not claiming anything---only confirmed information is on this article. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 00:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        Wow can we stop please, bringing up things from the past and other stuff isn't going to help your case. Here on Wikipedia there are policies that must be followed i.e. CRYSTAL --> Wikipedia is not a crystal ball for the future, for all we know the album could be canceled in the next month! Not only that, but this article is just a re-write of the group's history and some nonsense commentary from the band about the untitled, unfinished album. What needs to be said can be done in the main One Direction article until a title, release date etc. is confirmed. Till 01:13, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        All I'm saying is you would not have tagged this for deletion if it still was on your creation list. While I do note your concern, they have already shot the artwork for the album. Information will released "soon" Styles said in an audio message on twitter. AdabowtheSecond (talk) 02:07, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
        No, it was a redirect when I created it, it was you who wrote the article. And "soon" isn't a time specific. Till 02:24, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very little of this is actually based on the album, it is mostly background. There is no tracklisting, singles, prospective release date, etc. Article will be encyclopedic later, however, at the very earliest when tracklisting and prospective release date are available as well as when the first single is released. Toa Nidhiki05 02:50, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Bring down the hammer. --BDD (talk) 17:00, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Any important info can be put in One Direction's main page. No need to fully delete though. --Shadow (talk) 19:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:CRYSTAL - it's WP:HAMMERtime. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:24, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Like previously mentioned, if deleted it's only going to have to get created a second time around. However, like also previously mentioned it does violate the policy in the fact that hardly anything is confirmed, yet. 16:46, 1 August 2012 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.93.69 (talk)
Keep or Redirect There is no need to delete the article because like others have said, another one will be re-created in the future anyway. Furthermore, all the information is properly sourced but if there isn't enough for it to be "notable" then I would suggest merging any noteworthy material into their main page and redirecting this page to that page. JayJ47 (talk) 06:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The One Direction article already covers the important bits in this article (--> the bits that are actually about the album). Till 08:13, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - The article should still be redirected though. It's pointless to fully delete when it's going to be created in less than 3 months. --Shadow (talk) 00:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    - We don't know that, hence WP:CRYSTAL. Till 03:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The lead single is said to be receiving airplay this weekend on BBC Radio, its top secret although my sources never fail at least till now AdabowtheSecond (talk) 16:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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