Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obscured By Clouds Tour

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The result was redirect to Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon Tour 1972-1973. MBisanz ^talk 04:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Obscured By Clouds Tour[edit]

Non-notable tour that only consists of a setlist and a list of dates. Nothing to suggest that the tour is notable on its own per WP:NOTINHERITED. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 21:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, a non-notable tour that fails to satisfy the general notability guideline with significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 23:37, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: trivial coverage, non-notable. JamesBurns (talk) 04:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: non-trivial 3rd party coverage includes Echoes and In the Flesh by Glenn Povey, Saucerful of Secrets by Nicholas Schaffner and about EVERY serious book about Pink Floyd because the last shows at the Rainbow (London) included the first ever performance of their magnum opus Dark Side of the Moon. Especially these Rainbow shows were heavily featured in the English press, incl. Derek Jewell's famous article for the Sunday Times. --Avant-garde a clue-hexa Chord ² 21:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - But nothing that you mention actually constitutes "substantial coverage". Mostly it's writings about the band coming from people and sources that write about the band, and write about the tour BECAUSE they write about the band. Pink Floyd has a very devout fan following, and because of that nearly every part of their history has been covered in detail by these sources. However, this is not "substantial third-party coverage" that proves notability per the general notability guidelines. Besides, a lot of the sources you call "famous" are only famous among diehard fans, but still don't serve WP:GNG. Also, the fact that it was the first tour where they played a certain song or album does not make the tour notable, as the tour's notability cannot be inherited from the notability of the album. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 22:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See my notes at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Winter Tour '74, and please read again my !vote. --Avant-garde a clue-hexa Chord ² 23:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. —--Avant-garde a clue-hexa Chord ² 21:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: nothing inherently notable about this tour, a list of dates without explanation or rationale. A-Kartoffel (talk) 03:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - besides my keep above I propose a merge into Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon Tour 1972-1973, as it is considered the pre-Dark Side tour and was not officially called ObC. The tour dates currently stated are wrong [1]. I didn't find Derek Jewell's review of the Rainbow shows on the internet, just "In their own terms, Floyd strikingly succeed. They are dramatists supreme." Derek Jewell, The Sunday Times, reviewing PF's 4 day gig at Rainbow, but could quote from my German versions of Schaffner's Saucerful of Secrets, also quoted here. Those Rainbow concerts, where they premiered Dark Side to the press, were certainly some of the most important in their career. The Brighton gig was reviewed by NME [2] --Avant-garde a clue-hexa Chord ² 02:15, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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