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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. — Scientizzle 14:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nottingham United FC[edit]

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Amateur club playing at a non-notable level of football -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. – PeeJay 10:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete WikiProject Football/Notability is rather vague, but it also seems to fail Notability in any case. No searches, especially news searches, showed any results in a national publication or showed them to have played at a national level. --Triwbe (talk) 12:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I think that the page for Nottingham United FC should be kept, because they are one of the biggest amateur clubs in the county by numbers and members and have a team in the Premier Division of the Midland Amateur Alliance which is one of the oldest amateur leagues in the world and the team they run in there(Monty Hind Old Boys) is almost 40 years old. They also run Attenboro Cavaliers in the Long Eaton Sunday League Premier Division(previous Champions) and have a meeting with the grading officer this month to get the Saturday team pushed up into the Central Midlands League, and there are other Central Midlands League Teams on Wiki, so why not Nottingham United? They also have a tour to play professional clubs in Europe this August and recieve frequent local media attention through their on the pitch success, community projects and various charity fundraising events. --Nottsutd (talk) 13:38, 10 May 2010 (UTC) — Nottsutd (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
"and there are other Central Midlands League Teams on Wiki" - See Wp:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 15:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the editor (article creator) is saying only that they might get into the CMFL, not that they're already in it...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:20, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point regarding the CML, but just the fact they have 6 adult 11-a-side teams sets them apart from other amateur clubs and makes them one of the largest amateur clubs in the East Midlands. Also they have international media coverage, you can read about them on the Bulgarian National Futsal League website here: http://www.blfz.eu/index.php?limitstart=18 on page four, the team in the red kit. The article is about their upcoming European tour and the matches against 3 pro teams will be broadcast on cable TV, again something that sets them apart from other amateur clubs. You can check the photo on the BLFZ site to the ones on the NUFC page. --86.1.178.69 (talk) 16:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Since they started in 2008, it's highly unlikely that they've played in the top 10 tiers of the football pyramid, and they've not played in any cup competition that grants them notability. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 15:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - non-notable team. Recreate if/when they reach a high-enopugh league. GiantSnowman 20:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - per the above. Non-notable team. Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment - Is the Notts Sunday Football League part of the English football league system? Is this club part of the National League System? If it is, then we should keep this article. If not we should just delete it. --Siva1979Talk to me 04:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: The club has only received local coverage, and doesn't play at a high enough level of the Football League system to imply notability. BigDom 06:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The club has a meeting with two committee members(including the grading officer) from the CML on Thursday morning for a pitch/facilities inspection regarding their application to join. If the club is accepted, would the article on the club have a place on wiki? It looks very probable they will be admitted, can this page by saved somewhere if it is deleted before the club has its confirmation? --Nottsutd (talk) 22:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Unfortunately the rule of thumb used by the WP:FOOTY project is that a club must play in the top ten levels of the English football league system (the levels which are eligible to enter the FA Cup). Even the top division of the CMFL is lower than that, I'm afraid. The only CMFL teams with articles are those who have previously played in higher leagues..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I created a new discussion about this in the WP:FOOTY talk page. Please view my comments about this. I feel that it is about time to change this rule to include level 11 clubs as well. I have been waiting more than 2 years for this rule to change! --Siva1979Talk to me 05:09, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not relevant to this discussion, though. Even if this club does join the CMFL (not guaranteed) they would surely join the lower of its two divisions, which is not level 11) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • The club had a meeting on Thursday with the Chairman and Grading Officer of the CMFL and were accepted. It was also decided by the FA that both the Supreme and Premier Divisions will be step 7 for the coming season and will most likely be changed to North and South Divisions, with the North promoting into the Northern Counties League and the South into the East Midlands Counties League. Nottingham United FC have been put into the Premier Division and would be in the South Division if the changes go ahead. As they are now at step 7, it makes a big difference to their notability as a club.--Nottsutd (talk) 20:26, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then if it is confirmed that they would be a step 7 club, I would like to keep this article as well! It is because it is also my sincerest desire to include ALL step 7 or level 11 English football clubs to Wikipedia. --Siva1979Talk to me 13:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is not current consensus, though. Current consensus is that only clubs down to Step 6 are notable. You can't say that an article should be kept based on what you think consensus should be..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:45, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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