Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nocturnal Breed

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The result was withdrawn by nominator [1]. the wub "?!" 21:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nocturnal Breed[edit]

Metal band without notability, basically. No record deal with a notable label (and no chart listings, since they're a metal band...), and no significant coverage in reliable sources. All I can find is a two hits on www.nrk.no, one a paragraph in English and the other half a paragraph in Norwegian, besides a few mentions of show dates in various places. Drmies (talk) 19:27, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 23:54, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep based on the fact that Silenoz and Stian Arnesen are former members. This satisfies WP:BAND criterion 6 - "an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians". the wub "?!" 23:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmmm. I hadn't seen that. If this is kept, we have another eternal stub on our servers. Drmies (talk) 00:06, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, passes WP:MUSIC#C1 for album reviews here, here, here, here, and here, and squeezes through C5 for multiple releases on Hammerheart Records. We'll "have another eternal stub on our servers"....so what???? Last time I looked Wikipedia didn't have a deadline nor will it ever be finished. Esradekan Gibb ^"Klat" 11:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey Esradekan, I'm a great admirer of your work in the music department--but one question mark is enough. ;) I understand your remarks perfectly well, thanks. However, as far as I understand, none of the references you give are from reliable sources--and your word choice, "squeezes by," is telling. I have not found a single review in what might be called reliable sources, or I would have never nominated this. Now, if the consensus is that having some former, notable band members, two releases on a moderately notable label, and a couple of reviews on metal sites is enough, then I'll gladly withdraw the nomination. Drmies (talk) 14:45, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Firstly, the squeezes through comment is on WP:Music#C5, not the rest of it. And secondly, may I ask what is your definition of a reliable source? Esradekan Gibb ^"Klat" 15:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Sure--I get it from WP:RS. I could go on at length about how the sites mentioned above don't seem to have much editorial oversight, their editorial standards are impossible to gauge, much if not all of their content seems to be user-submitted, et cetera, but I don't think I need to argue extensively that the above don't qualify as reliable sources. Drmies (talk) 21:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Borderline, but a couple of records on Hammerheart just edges through WP:MUSIC. Struggling to find many other sources however, and note that not a single one mentioned above is in a reliable source. Nothing wrong with stubs, though. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 14:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.