Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nirav Patel

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The result was delete. J04n(talk page) 11:46, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nirav Patel[edit]

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autobiography.in my opinion i dont think this article needs to be on wikipedia. Davidjohn13 (talk) 16:13, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete.Jussychoulex (talk) 16:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep - This page is extremely important to the people of United Kingdom and the rest of the world as Nirav Patel has done so much in supporting the London 2012 Olympic Torch Relay. This page includes information which enables the county Kent and the rest of the world to be able to find out more information about this extraordinary person. EdwardGrangerWiki (talk) 16:43, 19 February 2013 (UTC) — EdwardGrangerWiki (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Struck sockpuppet !vote[reply]

Comment There were around 8,000 torchbearers for the London Olympics; it is not something which in itself meets the Wikipedia Notability criteria. AllyD (talk) 16:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep - This page is about a boy aged 16 who has done done a lot for our local community and has made our country proud. Nirav is not just any torchbearer, but was one who really did so much for the UK. There were 8000 torchbearers but Nirav really was really outstanding for the county Kent. kellyf456 (talk) 17:14, 19 February 2013 (UTC) — kellyf456 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Struck sockpuppet !vote[reply]

Speedy delete -Non-notable personality. Walking with torch does not make a person notable. Page developed for self promotion by Nbp777 (talk · contribs). Note the same page has been deleted earlier after deletion discussion, see [[1]]NehaIndia (talk) 17:34, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep - This page was deleted in 2007 which was before Nirav Patel carried the Olympic torch. This page should not be deleted. This page was deleted before for a completely different reason. It was deleted for a different person called Nirav Patel. By the way, this page is about a recognised person in Kent.Frankmartin2 (talk) 17:48, 19 February 2013 (UTC) — Frankmartin2 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Struck sockpuppet !vote[reply]

* Keep - Those of you who have wanted the page Nirav Patel to be deleted should not request deletion if you don't know how important this person is. As I read this page, this person seems very important. I have contacted the Olympic committee and they want to keep this page about Nirav Patel as they say he is not only just an Olympic Torchbearer, but a really important torchbearer as he got his torch lit by the Olympic Lantern, there are other reasons as well. This page should stay on Wikipedia. Gordsnow (talk) 17:59, 19 February 2013 (UTC) — Gordsnow (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Struck sockpuppet !vote[reply]

what is the contribution of Nirav Patel in society. Give some authentic reference to show his notability.Jussychoulex (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Olympic committee say Nirav Patel is the youngest Scout leader in England. He does voluntary work to help imporove Scouting in the UK. Nirav has raised thousands of pounds for so many different charities and has helped so many young Cub scouts and elder Scouts to gain more knowledge of why scouting is so important to young people. The commitment Nirav has made to this organisation has helped so many young people in the UK to get essential scouting knowledge which they will need for future life. All this information was provided from the Olympic committee. Gordsnow (talk) 18:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Give authentic references. Do not say without references. Proof is required to show his notability. Jussychoulex (talk) 18:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The first reference is from the Olympic committee website. It is a page about Nirav :http://www.london2012.com/torch-relay/torchbearers/torchbearers=nirav-patel-7603/ The second reference is from a nationwide radiostation website http://www.heart.co.uk/kent/events/olympic-torch-relay/olympic-torch-relay-july-18th/olympic-torch-relay-18th-july-9/ the third reference is from a county newspaper website http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/LIVE-Olympic-torch-Kent-Day-61-relay-London-2012/story-16553524-detail/story.html#axzz2LLnQgG00 the fourth reference is from another county newspaper website http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/home/2012/july/18/day_two_of_kents_torch.aspx Gordsnow (talk) 18:53, 19 February 2013 (UTC)— Gordsnow (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
I have seen these references earlier at the end of the page. These are not-authentic references. Just show any weblink which show the notability of this person (except torch bearing: its not a notable work).Jussychoulex (talk) 18:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I myself have directly contacted the Olympic committee and they have said that this page is worthy of staying on Wikipedia as Nirav is one of very few torchbearers to get lit from the Olympic Lantern. He was an honourable torchbearer as he had his torch lit from the Olympic lantern. Gordsnow (talk) 19:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Olympic committee do not run Wikipedia, whether by attributable or non-attributed opinions. While the subject obviously found it memorable to be a torchbearer (number 21 on the 61st day if I read your sources correctly), that will not in itself establish notability according to Wikipedia criteria, nor will being a cub scout leader. A clearer demonstration of notability will be needed to meet WP:ANYBIO. AllyD (talk)

They also said that Nirav will be presented the Queen's Scout Award from Queen Elizabeth II which is notable work as this award is not easy to get. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gordsnow (talk • contribs) 19:05, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Your personal talk with Olympic committee does not not make him a notable person. We will support this page after he gets the Queen's Scout Award from Queen Elizabeth II,, not now. Its my request to not support the page of this non-notable person at present. Jussychoulex (talk) 19:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid raising any false impressions, it is worth being clear whether the Queen's Scout Award is seen as demonstration of Wikipedia biographical notability? I don't think it is? AllyD (talk) 22:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For those of you who may not be aware, Nirav does a lot of design work and and has been noted as an Arkwright Scholar. Being an Arkwright Schalar makes him one of the best design scholars in the UK. A reference to this is found in the Arkwright Scholar's Manual. Nirav was also chosen as a torchbearer because of his amazing ability in the world of Design and engineering. This makes him notable in the United Kingdom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellyf456 (talk • contribs)

The nomination is quoted on one of the offered references and seems to relate only to his work in the cubs and scouts. Can you point to where in the nomination text it mentions "his amazing ability in the world of Design and engineering"? AllyD (talk) 22:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As per the Wikipedia notability guidelines, Nirav Patel is not a notable person. This page should be deleted soon. Jussychoulex (talk) 19:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — I haven't found coverage in multiple reliable sources substantially about him. Discounting "coverage" by the Olympic Committee itself (non-third party), excessively local news reports that actually cover the torch relay, and a host of passing mentions, there's no indication of coverage to any encyclopedically meaningful extent. I also find no particular achievements that rise to the level of WP:ANYBIO. JFHJr (㊟) 21:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
delete - a single-event person. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:21, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have struck four !votes by sockpuppets of the creator of the article. All are blocked, sockpuppet investigation here[2]. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per earlier comments above, no evidence has been forthcoming that this person meets the notability criteria. AllyD (talk) 11:26, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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