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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. While the keep arguments are solidly rooted in policy (notably the fact that their latest collaborative album with a notable artist charted up to 2nd on Billboard 200, undeniably satisfying point two of our guideline on music-related notability), the delete opinions correctly point out a rather thin amount of coverage; after nine days, I cannot find necessary consensus for deletion, nor evident consensus to keep. I believe the suggestions to merge albums into the group's article should continue to be discussed and will no doubt help improve and confirm the subject's apparent notability. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 03:52, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ninja Sex Party[edit]

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Nominating because this seems to be a non-notable internet based musical group Harizotoh9 (talk) 22:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also I've noticed a major possible conflict of interest. Brian Wecht is a member of Ninja Sex Party. The article was created by on User:Bwecht. It's possible that these are one and the same person based on the similarity of names. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:34, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. While I am intrigued by the concept, the sources simply aren't there to support an article. I found nothing but trivial fluff at Huffington Post and CraveOnline, neither of which is substantial enough to satisfy the WP:GNG. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 18:19, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Not seeing sufficient in-depth coverage to demonstrate notability. --DAJF (talk) 06:10, 12 March 2014
  • Keep. This group has been around for years and has released three albums. It seems unduly snobbish to single them out this way. Blitterbug 20:29, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep This band is notable in many ways. First off, the are part of (Starbomb (album)) which according to the article "The album has managed to hit #12 overall album on iTunes, #1 on iTunes comedy along with #1 rap album and overall album at the time of its release." and was listed on the Billboard charts. Furthermore, if we delete this, we must also delete many other "internet stars" such as (Egoraptor) or Game Grumps), which neither are up for deletion. TheMesquito (talk) 23:18, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:OTHERSTUFF. Also I have in fact been looking at those very pages and may nominate them for deletion in the future. The proper response to WP:OTHERSTUFF is to in fact question the notability of all those pages, rather than to let all of them exist. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:09, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I could see why Game Grumps might be nominated for deletion, but it's absurd to nominate Egoraptor. He's a huge name in the world of internet celebrities, up there with PewDiePie and The Yogscast. Hirohiigo (talk) 01:22, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't really looked at his page too much. It might have enough, or could be merged into list of Youtube celebs or something. This is for a later date however. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 01:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Ninja Sex Party is a band that has cracked the Top 100 Comedy Albums list on iTunes for both "NSFW" and "Strawberries and Cream". At the time of this writing (March 15th, 2014), the albums are ranked on the number 55 and 56 spots, respectively (1). The band goes on tour and is referenced in WFNX "The Phoenix" Radio's website in Boston, Massachusetts (2)(3). Ninja Sex Party has also worked with popular online animator Arin 'Egoraptor' Hanson, Ross 'RubberRoss' O'Donovan, Chris 'Oneyng' O'Neil, and other notable online animators. Such collaborations occurred in "Dinosaur Laser Fight", and "Unicorn Wizard" which, at the time of this entry, each accumulated over 2 million and 1 million video views, respectively.(4) References below for information above. ADaviii (March 15, 2014 10:05 PM EST). — ADaviii (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

New source was added containing a tweet from the time in which their album "Strawberries and Cream" hit #2 on iTunes in the Comedy category.(5)

New source was added which contains a photo of Ninja Sex Party's"Strawberries and Cream" reaching number 9 on the Billboard comedy charts. (6)

New source added which contains the direct, official Billboard.com archived week of May 4th, 2013 Comedy charts which lists Ninja Sex Party's "Strawberries and Cream" as Number 9 (7) --ADaviii (11:55 PM EST, March 16, 2014)

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Connection with Egoraptor or Game Grumps is irrelevant since notability is not inherited. Blogs are also not relevant. I don't know if Popvortex counts as a WP:RS, so I don't think it can be used as a reference to chart performance. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)--Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Notable and covered by reliable media. OccultZone (Talk) 02:19, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This needs to be established with reliable sources. See WP:GNG. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep They were both part of Starbomb, who's album was the number one comedy album on iTunes for a while, as well as number one rap album. Not sure why this is being considered for deletion when you have separate pages for three cast members of "Geordie Shore" going untouched. (And unread.) 81.97.185.38 (talk) 09:49, 16 March 2014 — 81.97.185.38 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • Delete - Despite what a few others have suggested in this discussion, this act definitely does not meet the general guide for notability. The only significant coverage displayed so far in a reliable source was the puff piece on Huffington Post. The Kotaku article used as a reference is more about Game Grumps than this group, and only mentions this band briefly. As to meeting WP:BAND, the closest this group comes to meeting the criteria is the second criterion, I'm not sure that reaching #9 on a weekly chart is sufficient. Other than that this seems to be a total miss. The individuals involved in this band are involved with a couple of other acts that may be notable, but notability isn't inherited, and this band at best warrants a mention in one of the other articles (for Game Grumps or Egoraptor perhaps). -- Atama頭 15:26, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Although I am a fan of this band, I have to look at this objectively and I do not see anything that warrants an article on the band for the time being. Perhaps this page can be merged with the Starbomb article. CoverMyIP (talk) 19:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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