Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nikolay Storonsky

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. After extended time for discussion, there is an absence of consensus, and a reasonable reliance on sources for keeping. bd2412 T 19:39, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nikolay Storonsky[edit]

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Founder of Revolut, a fintech startup. Does not appear to be notable independently from his company. Sources are only routine media coverage plus two interviews. I propose deleting or merging into Revolut. — kashmīrī ^TALK 19:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 23:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 23:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 23:43, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not independently notable and really nothing worth merging. Џ 12:47, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 07:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect (to Revolut) - while there's a few sources around the place, when removing the non-independent aspects (often interviews in reliable sources), there's not sufficient coverage of the man. Usually the non-interview but is mostly about the company itself. I don't think there's anything of particular note worthy of being merged, but founders are a reasonable redirect point. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:27, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Needs cleanup and additional sourcing but person is noteworthy based on even a cursory Google search. This is one of the largest current startups in the UK and one of the most noteworthy in Europe. Perhaps MinotaurX can help by adding more sources. Misterpottery (talk) 09:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Misterpottery: - as the one !voting Keep, and saying the sources are visible from a cursory search, it's usually expected to count it as a supported !vote if you can point us towards a couple of good sources, even if you don't add them to the article. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:35, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Misterpottery: This is a discussion about Nikolay Storonsky article, not about Revolut. Storonsky is not a startup but a person. — kashmīrī ^TALK 18:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Misterpottery: Sure offhand I see some good ones. [1] is written by a forbes staff writer (not a contributor like some of their other spam). [2] - paywalled but a featured interview in a top UK newspaper. [3] - him speaking at a major US tech conference. [4] - BBC interview discussing his personal decisions taken when starting Revolut. Misterpottery (talk) 12:16, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Misterpottery: ALL of your links are articles about Revolut. The fist one is an interview - please, hope you are not arguing that someone is notable and should have an article in an encyclopaedia because he/she was interviewed by a journalist? The Times is another interview! The TechCrunch article is, technically, a promo of the speakers at their own conference. BBC is still another (video) interview and again focused on Revolut, not on its founder.

Please, PLEASE read the General Notability Guideline, especially the part independent from the subject. — kashmīrī ^TALK 13:57, 4 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kashmiri: General Notability Guideline seems applicable. Like an artist with a single work there are parts here that specifically focus on him and his noteworthy background that would be indicative of any company with a high profile founder. Many many pages fulfil such WP:GNG guidelines. Look at Sundar Pichai or John Collison or Travis Kalanick for example. All are notable singularly for their success in one company and nearly every piece is focused on Google. Nikolay has specific coverage that meets WP:SUSTAINED, WP:NTEMP, and wouldn't be useful to include in the Revolut article in my opinion. Misterpottery (talk) 17:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Misterpottery: I think you are trolling now. I quoted you the policies, and especially, sourcing policies, and instead of acknowledging you keep arguing that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Sorry, it is quite a stretch of the imagination to compare Storonsky to Pichai. I am done explaining. — kashmīrī ^TALK 00:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:12, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to Revolut per nom. GN-z11 ^☎ ^★ 20:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I do think this article needs significant improvement and some POV fixing, but after some research I think subject passes WP:GNG. I will be editing the article to add some articles I found on Financial Times, Forbes, and Business Insider. Skirts89 (talk) 17:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Solid Keep There are lots of decent quality sources (per "News" button above) with interviews on this individual. WP has a long list of tech-BLPs whose accomplishments and coverage would not come close to Storonsky's. Not fair to simply merge him with his company. Britishfinance (talk) 16:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. How editors can suggest to Keep this (and "strongly" too) on the basis mainly of interviews is beyond me. Plus, we get the tired ol' "there's also other stuff around" argument. -The Gnome (talk) 11:59, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@The Gnome: But the interviews are what gives him notability (and this article is not comprehensive in listing these interviews). This is not a case of a "best of the worst" type arguement; my point is that WP has many other valid tech–BLPs who are less notable than this BLP.Britishfinance (talk) 15:23, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Public figurehead of a significant fintech company in the UK, which is currently in the press at least once per week. Google News is showing 10 references to him in the last month alone, including in Quartz, Telegraph and Business Insider. On top of that I'm seeing standalone interviews in Telegraph, FT, Business Insider and Forbes. ScepticalChymist (talk) 15:37, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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