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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —HueSatLum 22:11, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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1. notability with BLP (RS, verification failed on refs I checked) 2. advert (for DVD products etc) Widefox (talk) 11:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:43, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - There seem to be several okay sources on her in Google News. I do note copyvio from here. Also she is clearly a successful model and spokeswoman in her own country and I see she has been described as one of the "20 most influential Nigerians". The article sourcing (which is a mess) needs cleaning up and the article could do with a good rewrite/clean out, but it seems clear to me that Ms. Oshinowo-Soleye passes the notability test per sources. Seems that article improvement rather than deletion is needed here. Mabalu (talk) 16:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- good work with the copyvio link. The www.vanguardngr.com ref you cite is just a copy of the article at the time [1] so clearly vanguardngr is not a WP:RS. This BLP needs RS. Widefox (talk) 10:06, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Not a copyvio at all, date of the all africa article = Oct 2010, date of the edits to the article ([2]) = March 2010, add to that the [2]'s and [3]'s throughout the article and it's pretty clear which was copied--Jac16888 Talk 10:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I removed the copyvio tag. So allafrica.com is like vanguardngr - not a WP:RS. Widefox (talk) 11:34, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There does seem to be quite a bit about Nike Oshinowo-Soleye on Google, interviews/articles/magazine covers/etc. Trawling through the blogs/NRS, this source on a government site 1 seems OK. This is the text of an article in Wow! magazine (or is it a blog? Looks like it's also published as a magazine though. Either way, no author is given, tsk) from their website. I think this lady would qualify, even after filtering out much of the bumph. While finding other decent sources may require some work, I suspect they are out there although stifled by a ton of unusable stuff. Mabalu (talk) 14:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- refs: 1. crossriverstate seems ok not strong (fails independent of subject? lack of author name does happen on corporate sites) 2. Wow magazine not RS (no author name, editorial control?, advert/PR/puff mag, international but tiny distribution). Both 1. and 2. are news/lifestyle mag rather than RS for BLP (missing bio facts) Widefox (talk) 11:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- There does seem to be quite a bit about Nike Oshinowo-Soleye on Google, interviews/articles/magazine covers/etc. Trawling through the blogs/NRS, this source on a government site 1 seems OK. This is the text of an article in Wow! magazine (or is it a blog? Looks like it's also published as a magazine though. Either way, no author is given, tsk) from their website. I think this lady would qualify, even after filtering out much of the bumph. While finding other decent sources may require some work, I suspect they are out there although stifled by a ton of unusable stuff. Mabalu (talk) 14:15, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, I removed the copyvio tag. So allafrica.com is like vanguardngr - not a WP:RS. Widefox (talk) 11:34, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Not a copyvio at all, date of the all africa article = Oct 2010, date of the edits to the article ([2]) = March 2010, add to that the [2]'s and [3]'s throughout the article and it's pretty clear which was copied--Jac16888 Talk 10:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- good work with the copyvio link. The www.vanguardngr.com ref you cite is just a copy of the article at the time [1] so clearly vanguardngr is not a WP:RS. This BLP needs RS. Widefox (talk) 10:06, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong keep - the article establishes notability via several reliable sources. The article fulfills WP:ANYBIO, WP:GNG, WP:NRVE, WP:V and WP:RS. The Vanguard, The Punch, Thisday, Nigerian Tribune, National Mirror are part of the main daily newspapers of Nigeria, and are thusly reliable sources according to Wikipedia's definition of reliability. The sources on the article all have an editoral board consisting of scores of people involved in fact checking. WP:RS stipulates that "...in general, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication...". AllAfrica.com aggregates, produces and distributes news and information items daily from over 130 African news organizations and from their own reporters. By the way, WoW Magazine is not a one-man show, but has several people involved in editing, and is thusly a reliable source. Nike Oshinowo-Soleye is notable for: 1) winning a well-known and significant award (Most Beautiful Girl in Nigeria), 2) receiving significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Here are some additional references from reliable sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Amsaim (talk) 21:18, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.