Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicolette Rankin

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Open English. And merge from history as desired. One "keep" supports a merger and another is by a now-blocked user. Sandstein 07:59, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nicolette Rankin[edit]

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This article received some major restructuring and good advice while in draft, courtesy of Jbhunley, but as they note in their analysis of sources (Talk:Nicolette_Rankin#Notability), notability remained weak. Moved to mainspace with, by my assessment, continuing lack of demonstrated notability. All of the sources provided are either passing mentions, news releases, or promo pieces. Searches for better material have been unavailing. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:39, 16 April 2018 (UTC) Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:39, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree with nom's findings and conclusions. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not enough coverage in independent, reliable sources to verify or sustian article. Fails Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines and WP:NBIO. As I said on the article's talk page, which is linked above, the sourcing just is not there. Jbh ^Talk 15:45, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nicollete Rankin is also known as Nicollete Moreno, and Harvard Business Review indeed did a case study specifically citing her. Specific articles in ABC, referring to Open English being a $350 million business, and her as the co-founder, as well as on Wall Street Journal, meet notability criteria. Article can still be expanded with better sourcing based on using Moreno as surname as well. Simone2049 (talk) 07:22, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 18:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. The Mighty Glen (talk) 18:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles (talk) 03:08, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Substantial independent RS coverage of Nicollete Rankin who was known as Nicollete Moreno for much of her professional career. Coverage of Open English lists her as "Co-founder" and "chief product officer." The 2014 HBR case study gives much more space to Nicollette than to her co-founder husband, and she has done significant stuff since their divorce. 03:35, 24 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by HouseOfChange (talk • contribs)

Comment sorry I forgot to sign the above. I have also done some work on article references, which were a mess. HouseOfChange (talk) 04:51, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is notable information contained in this article, though I wouldn't oppose this being merged into an article about Open English as that's where most of the coverage comes from. A Google search indicates there's a lot more coverage about the company itself than Nicolette. Lonehexagon (talk) 00:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Open English. I noticed the Open English article was deleted twice, for promo and copyvio reasons, but I'll take a shot at recreating it as a stub with some of the info in here. If I can find enough, then this problem is solved. Give me an hour. In this case, most of the sourcing on her is the Harvard Business Review coverage, which is nice but really more about the company. And I'm not really sure that being featured in HBR puts a business over the top for notability - it just means they had a notable problem that can be a teaching moment for students. I don't see enough other coverage about her - just the company. So fails WP:GNG. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:20, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK - there's an Open English article now. The redirect works now, unless it's Afd's again. Not sure there's much more to merge over about Nicolette beyond what I have already started. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:57, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To discuss the possibility of a redirect.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:26, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect –Because the new Open English article is made possible by using complete references of this article and it has stronger claim of notability than this bio. This shows clearly the references are about the programme/website with tangential mention of the founder (which is necessary). This should've been "deleted" if there ware no redirect target. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to "Open English and have "Nicolette Rankin" and "Nicolette Moreno" redirect there. -The Gnome (talk) 10:11, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Objection IMO Rankin has independent notability. Her ex-husband's company may be more notable than she is but if she is independently notable, why should people searching for info on her be sent to her ex-husband's company? HouseOfChange (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - clearly notable with reliable secondary references. Hmlarson (talk) 23:56, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.