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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. MBisanz talk 00:27, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Zimmerman[edit]

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Article is about a soccer player who fails to meet the notability standards at WP:N, WP:ATHLETE and WP:FOOTYN; article should be re-created if and when he makes a professional appearance JonBroxton (talk) 03:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong Keep Um, he does play major league soccer, the article says that in the introduction. It certainly isn't a long article, but he's just as notable as all the other players on the team, all but one of whom have their own article as well. --Pstanton (talk) 04:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Guidelines state that a player must have PLAYED a game in a professional league to be considered notable by WP:ATHLETE, or to have done something especially notable in his college career or in some other capacity to be considered notable by WP:N. Zimmerman does not meet either of these criteria; just being on the team is not enough - he has to have PLAYED. --JonBroxton (talk) 04:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  04:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - no professional appearances thus far, failing WP:Athlete. I'm happy to restore/recreate when/if he makes a professional appearance if someone asks me on my talk page. Camw (talk) 07:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE as he has yet to play in a fully-professional league. Recreate if and when he makes his debut. --Jimbo[online] 07:53, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Clearly fails WP:ATHLETE.Nrswanson (talk) 08:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom and WP:ATHLETE. T-95 (talk) 15:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete If he broke his leg in three places tomorrow and never made it on the pitch in his entire career, would he be notable? No. Not yet notable. --Dweller (talk) 09:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep He was signed by a professional soccer team and has particpated in a match with his club since signing a pro deal, whether exhibition or league it shouldnt matter. College basketball players and college football (american) players are considered notable per wikipedia despite having never signed or player professionally. His accomplishments in amateur(college soccer) are notable as well, which led to a pro team signing him. We need to adjust the rules.(User:Elomen76) —Preceding undated comment added 15:43, 6 April 2009 (UTC).[reply]

*Keep If the highest level of college football, baseball and basketball players are deemed notable by most decisions on WP, I see no reason why college soccer players shouldn't be as well. Players drafted should be considered notable as they are considered the highest professional prospects in their professional league —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elomen76 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument. --JonBroxton (talk) 19:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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