Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nice Jazz Festival
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. WP:SNOW MBisanz talk 00:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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non notable promo for unreferenced jazzfest in france, doesn't even have a french language version Troyster87 (talk) 02:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep! Nominator, you should really look carefully before you make a claim of non-notability. First, if Miles Davis has played there, and if Jean-Luc Ponty, Return to Forever, Gary Burton, John Mayall, and Joan Baez played there in 2008, then it's notable. Besides, you could try a Google News search, and count the meaningful references--from the Globe and Mail, the Jerusalem Post, the New York Times (in 1998: "the Nice Jazz Festival, July 12 to 19, is a stalwart of the jazz circuit"). Need I go on? Admin, please close this quickly; nominator, please reread the guidelines. Sure, it's a bad article, but that's not a reason for deletion. Non-notability is (of the article's TOPIC), and this festival is highly notable. Drmies (talk) 06:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, where are the sources to back the claims of those artists performing there? Also there are tons of encyclopedically insignificant venues where highly famous acts have played or events for that matter. I did a google news search and it was fruitless. Please provide links to those sources and fix it if you want to save it. I remain unconvinced.Troyster87 (talk) 08:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "Where are the sources?" Click on the Google link above, will you. I could say "not my job," and that it's yours, as a nominator, to actually look for these sources before you nominate an article. I'll cite from WP:BEFORE: "When nominating an article for deletion due to sourcing concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources aren't likely to exist." But I won't say it's not my job, and I am adding some of these sources, which are incredibly easy to come by, and perhaps next time you'll look before you take up other editors' time at AfD. Drmies (talk) 17:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Another note to nominator: I see in the history that you did not notify the original creator or the two main contributors to the article that you were nominating it for deletion, nor did you mark it in the edit history that you were doing so. Please follow the procedures defined in WP:AFD; there are good reasons why the rules are the way they are. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "Where are the sources?" Click on the Google link above, will you. I could say "not my job," and that it's yours, as a nominator, to actually look for these sources before you nominate an article. I'll cite from WP:BEFORE: "When nominating an article for deletion due to sourcing concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources aren't likely to exist." But I won't say it's not my job, and I am adding some of these sources, which are incredibly easy to come by, and perhaps next time you'll look before you take up other editors' time at AfD. Drmies (talk) 17:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, where are the sources to back the claims of those artists performing there? Also there are tons of encyclopedically insignificant venues where highly famous acts have played or events for that matter. I did a google news search and it was fruitless. Please provide links to those sources and fix it if you want to save it. I remain unconvinced.Troyster87 (talk) 08:38, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- i think thats optionalTroyster87 (talk) 02:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Drmies linked to Google News which listed indepth articles about the festival which means it meets the general notability criterion. The claim that the French Wikipedia doesn't have an article is moot. Wikipedia is a work in progress and if it took until now for one to be on the English Wikipedia, it's not unthinkable that no one got around to writing one in French. A lack of a Wikipedia article is only relevant when it was actively removed within the rules. - Mgm|(talk) 10:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as per Drmies. Edward321 (talk) 14:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as per above. I think we have established an early-closure worthy consensus here. The festival's 60+ year history deserves a better article, but for the time being, this one will have to do. --Agamemnon2 (talk) 22:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.