Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newsweek's List of the 1,000 Top U.S. Schools

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The result of the debate was DELETE. -Doc ^ask? 18:39, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Newsweek's List of the 1,000 Top U.S. Schools

Non-encycloedic. Too many publications run too many top ten/hundered lists - such lists are highly subjective and POV. The lists are available on Newsweek's website: 2003 and 2005. Wikipedia doesn't need them. Delete. See also: India Today's top 10 colleges of India. utcursch | talk 05:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. ~~This is almost certainly a copyright violation. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newsweek’s List of Top High Schools (2003). Tagging for now.~~ The page itself seems to have been created just to provide links to likely copyrighted lists copy-pasted into WP. This page is itself not a copyvio, clearly, but it is a deletion candidate. I'd vote to delete, as it does not serve a purpose on the encyclopedia at present. encephalon 07:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not encyclopedic, useless dump. Grue 14:30, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, expand. Even if the actual lists are deleted (which I take no position on), it is still noteworthy to report that this major publication compiles such a list, and that they use a particular formula (which is subject to dispute) to generate their rankings. BD2412 T 15:21, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

So put a para in Newsweek which describes it. Just about every publication on the planet publishes a top 10/20/50/100 (depnding on how much blank paper they need to fill) list at least once a year, either as a silly-season filer or to pad out the Chrstmas "special" when there is no actual news to report. There is no practical limit to this cruft. - Just zis Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] :: AfD? 16:56, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- True - the Newsweek article is so short that a merge would be harmless, and indeed probably helpful. That need not be decided in AfD, however. BD2412 T 20:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Keep. Questionable nomination made to support nomination of India Today's top 10 colleges of India in an attempt to counter claims of systemic bias.--Nicodemus75 16:33, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- False. Assume good faith: I nominated this for precisely the reason stated, and no other. In fact I am against all such lists, also for the reasons stated. - Just zis Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] :: AfD? 16:58, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- As usual, I can't even tell what the hell you are talking about. Unless utcursch is your deletion sock-puppet, you didn't nominate this for deletion.--Nicodemus75 21:02, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ah yes, I nominated a different bit of listcruft - easy mistake to make, there is so very much of it around. It matters not: the argument is the same. This is second-hand reporting of someone's space filler. Your inability to understand me remains an unsolved mystery, as I am usually considered quite lucid. - Just zis Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] (W) AfD? 22:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as above and stop afd spam. Trollderella 16:36, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as pointless. ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 17:47, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep (or merge per Just zis Guy, you know?) as a notable publication. The individual lists, however, must be deleted, since they are not appropriate for Wikipedia regardless of their copyright status. — Haeleth Talk 18:26, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It appears this was created to wikilink to individual pages that reprint the lists from Newsweek... Bad idea. Writing an actual article here about the Newsweek list and externally linking to the Newsweek website containing the lists... Good idea. Will change my vote to Keep if this happens.didn't sign my vote...--Isotope23 03:44, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Valuable information for anyone wanting to attend university in the USA. Big Booger 01:52, 12 November 2005 (UTC)][reply]

Delete: Go to the magazine, if you want to read the magazine. Wikipedia is a tertiary source of information and not a reprint service. Geogre 04:01, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

delete 2nd hand reportage, non-encyclopedic list cruft Pete.Hurd 22:11, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Geogre. flowersofnight (talk) 18:45, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep unless it is determined that it is in violation of copyright, in which case it needs to be removed. There appear to be a large number of other lists on Wikipedia which are copied from outside sources, so we should not single this one out solely because it is related to education. Yamaguchi先生 08:29, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Yamaguchi, this is not a list, this is an article about Newsweek's list, which also provides links to the lists, so there is no question of copyright here as the information is original and licensed under the GFDL. Silensor 17:40, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and expand. This article is not comparable to India Today's top 10 colleges of India or the other Newsweek lists which are being inspected for copyvios. Silensor 17:40, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this is a disambig page for two copyvio lists... why do we need it?Gateman1997 22:54, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Reprint, seems pointless here. *drew 03:09, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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