Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nekojishi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Basically per A7; can be recreated if there are sources making it notable. For posterity, the entire unsourced content by NeonMerlin was: "Nekojishi is a Taiwanese furry visual novel where the male player character must choose one of three male felid love interests: Lin Hu, a tiger; Shu Chi, a leopard; or Likulau, a ghost clouded leopard.". Sandstein 15:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nekojishi[edit]

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No evidence of notability. Can't find any RS coverage on google. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 04:28, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - bluntly speaking, I was reticent to do any great research on this while on an open router, since I felt explanations would be needed. That said, there did seem to be quite a lot of potentially reliable coverage (in the sense that not all sources writing about it were unreliable). There was also quite a lot of foreign texts that google is not great at translating, so a native speaker might have more luck. Finally, which do we think applies - WP:NBOOK or WP:NGAME? Nosebagbear (talk) 10:25, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Nosebagbear:- I guess NGAME? 'Visual novels' are apparently a video game genre. All I could fine were facebook, wikia, and similar quality sources. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 02:55, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Taiwan-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 14:54, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete One-sentence stub that doesn't even claim, much less demonstrate, notability. No prejudice against an article that meets our inclusion criteria being created on this subject if some reliable coverage can be located, or withdrawing this !vote if someone actually fixes the article in the interim, but I see no reason why this shouldn't go the way of my original Utsunomiya Yoritsuna draft. I'm also a bit concerned that when the page was originally PRODded, the PROD was reverted with an apparently nonsense edit summary. @NeonMerlin: It's been six days -- why have you not gotten around to giving the page any magic love yet? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete - I suspect Hijiri 88 is correct - there might be sufficient notability for this to be found on the web, but it probably does breach A7 Nosebagbear (talk) 08:52, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. WP:A7 doesn't apply to novels or games. There does appear to be some coverage in reliable sources, e.g. Hardcore Gamer. Pburka (talk) 00:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That entire article is 3 paragraphs, and can hardly be considered 'significant coverage.' It's more of a blog post/brief mention. Further, is 'hardcore gamer' a RS? ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 01:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Saying it "doesn't apply to novels or games" seems questionable when it explicitly covers "web content". Whether "web content" covers downloadable Steam games is an open question as far as I can tell, but it definitely covers at least some novels and games that exist only on some guy's website, which is presumably why it doesn't explicitly exclude "novels and games". Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:48, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I'm inclined to agree with ECoV in questioning the reliability of the source: an earlier article on the same topic, by the same author for the same publication, included the bizarre claim that the game brings together Taiwanese elements and aboriginal culture (!? does he mean Australian aboriginal? if he meant Taiwanese aboriginal, that would be redundant...) and appears to have sloppily conflated new Taiwan dollars with USD, since 1,000,000 USD to crowdfund a non-animated visual novel is a phenomenal amount and would raise questions of scamming, while 1,000,000 TWD is not all that impressive despite the language the article used. (Granted, FlyingV.cc might measure things in USD, and the game might be a visual extravaganza of a gaming experience that really did cost that much to make, but...) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:07, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BTdubs, the best source I could find discussing the game was this, but appears to be more about Taiwanese culture and history in general, with the reporter taking with credulity everything his interviewees said with regard to the content of the game since the game was not apparently out yet. We can't just say the game incorporates elements of Taiwanese aboriginal mythology (as opposed to being "inspired by" it, which usually means there is little to no relation) just because the game's producers said so, since (even per the report in question) said producers knew nothing about said mythology prior to doing research for the game. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.