Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Neil Cicierega (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 07:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Neil Cicierega

Non-notable biography, self-promotional. This has been nominated twice before, once in December of 2004 (kept with three opinions), and again in November of 2005 (result was tainted by massive sockpuppet presence and by the subject of the article advertising the AFD on his blog; no consensus keep). The name turns up a hair over 800 hits on Google. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Keep Lemon Demon actually is quite popular,especially at the time of writing this,when the flash movie of The Ultimate Showdown Of Ultimate Destiny is a huge hit. He also deserves credit for inventing the Animutation. --Anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjclock (talk • contribs)
- Comment Neil Cicierega's comments regarding Nov 2005 AfD. --Billpg 18:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. —Locke Cole • t • c 21:30, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete.' Lack of notability, whether as an internet fad or a musician (see WP:MUSIC). --Madchester 21:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable artist. --Billpg 21:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Not according to WP:BIO (or WP:MUSIC, as mentioned above). —Locke Cole • t • c 04:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - See WP:BIO. The second to last item under "People still alive" applies here. ("... whose work is recognized as exceptional...") --Billpg 09:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - You need a reliable source stating that, and in any event, he still fails WP:MUSIC. —Locke Cole • t • c 17:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless some very specific evidence of notability/popularity/influence is provided - all that's there now are unsourced assertions. CDC (talk) 00:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Notable for his animation work on the Internet, as I voted previously. I don't get why people seem to have it in for this guy having an article here. 23skidoo 01:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- His site, www.eviltrailmix.com, only has an Alexa ranking of 208,311. It also likely fails WP:WEB. —Locke Cole • t • c 04:09, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and Cleanup - he is admittedly notable, however most of the crud in the article really shouldn't be there -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 02:53, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep [User:Erinwolfrus] Indie band, but nontheless popular. If kept, best cleaned up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.231.142.25 (talk • contribs) 05:04, January 13, 2006
Keep. I found this article very useful when I was looking for information about several different flash animations. Ralphael 06:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC) (Copied from Talk page.)[reply]
Keep. Has made significant contributions to the Internet meme-sphere: animutations with 15,300 hits (not all by him, of course), Potter Puppet Pals with 76,500 and his one-man-band Lemon Demon with 33,000. Though his own site may not have a particularly high Alexa ranking, his work is often on other sites - potterpuppetpals.com has ranking 104,185, and material is hosted on other sites such as Newgrounds. In addition, his name may match in fewer places due to pseudonyms (Trapezoid, Lemon Demon). -- Mithent 11:36, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Other flash toons are on Wiki, why not this guy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pechark (talk • contribs) 15:57, January 13, 2006
- User's 8th contrib —Locke Cole • t • c 16:54, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Pechark has been editing before AfD was called. --Billpg 17:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep not for his music but for his invention of Animutation. I think that's pretty notable. — flamingspinach | (talk) 22:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He invented a whole new style of animation; in my books that's quite the achievement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady BlahDeBlah (talk • contribs)
Keep as notable, esp. the article in Salon. Turnstep 23:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep While his former name may not appear in Google searches, his aliases definately do. -- Chupon 00:15, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I say Keep. His work is notable enough and he's still very much active. --Antrophica 00:16, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Being that I am the subject of this article, I figured I might throw in my opinion-- though I have no editing history so I won't bother with an official vote. I think that I have enough nearly-famous projects which, added up, do warrant an article. However, it needs to be shorter and simpler than this. Currently it's a little jerkoff-ish, with needless details about my history and smaller projects. All it should be is basic list tying together my most popular projects (Animutations, Potter Puppet Pals, and Lemon Demon's involvement in the "Ebaums World Dot Com" and "The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" flash animations) with a basic description of each. -- Trapezzoid 02:34, 14 January 2006
Keep, one of the internets most notable contributors in the flash community. Anyone with SEVERAL news articles about them deserves to be in here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.250.249.145 (talk • contribs)
Keep. Notable both as a Flash artist and a musician. --Breathstealer 06:19, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Ashibaka tock 23:00, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Neil Cicierega is one of the most talented young composers of "funny music" today. His song "The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny" is a hit. -Dr Demento, host of the syndicated Dr. Demento radio show since 1970 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.130.55.116 (talk • contribs)

Keep A significant Flash animator and musician.--Sporkot 05:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep If Joseph Blanchette and SamBakZa can have articles, then Neil should get one too. All have top flashes on Newgrounds.com.--Dwedit 11:54, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable enough to warrant the article. Futility 15:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per Above. --Depakote 18:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: just like everyone else has said...Dr. Demento as someone pointed as said as suchCelestialaly12 22:45, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Is relevant in the world today — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.220.220 (talk • contribs)
Keep I specifically came to Wikipedia to find info on him and I'm not even involved in the Flash community.D'Iberville 23:25, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Numa Numa and American Idle are on here. There's no reason this shouldn't be kep't. --Nate3000 06:42, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.