Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naqshbandia Mujaddidia Najmiya Riyaziya

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The result was delete. Sandstein 10:01, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Naqshbandia Mujaddidia Najmiya Riyaziya

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Delete. Lacks reliable sources; only source provided is dead link. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 08:23, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dont delete, the source is reliable, the link is not dead the only thing is that every one of wikipedia admin users cant understand urdu. As a part of wikipedia user I assure you I have visited the place and have searched & verified all the details. Rest is up to you guys — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aasim001 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The only link / source provided is a dead link. It does not matter if you have personally visited the place or not, but the article needs to pass the GNG. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 09:44, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How are you saying its a dead link Aasim001 (talk) talk 10:20, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment.Do yourself a favor and just click on that link. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 10:32, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Dear Arun, I guess you are feeling irritated with the discussion, on the page 25 you will all the details. The website is not designed in that way it could redirect it to page no 25, you have to go to that page by clicking next.User talk:Aasim001 10:46, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I have no idea about what you are trying to say. When click on the URL, the response I get is "Service Unavailable HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable". I am not concerned about what the website was designed to do, but the least it should do is function. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 10:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I dont know whats the problem at your end but at my end I am able to open that link. User talk:Aasim001 11:01, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 16:59, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It does seem to be something on your end of the server, AKS.9955. I get a page titled شجرہِ طیبہ نقشبندیہ‎, together with a browsable book (كليدرحمت‎). Anyways, the current article is a duplicate of the list at Syed Riyaz Ahmad Naqshbandi, where it should remain, so here is a delete and redirect from me. --HyperGaruda (talk) 21:32, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Dear HyperGaruda, you are saying it right to delete and redirect but the complete list in not on the page Syed Riyaz Ahmad Naqshbandi, complete list is on Naqshbandia Mujaddidia Najmiya Riyaziya, please check & advice. User talk:Aasim001 05:04, 06 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. one more thing i want to say, this page is needed to show the complete spiritual lineage of this golden chain. on the page

Syed Riyaz Ahmad Naqshbandi i cant post the whole spiritual lineage that's why i need a separate page for it. any decision which is made would be appreciated. User talk:Aasim001 05:00, 07 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The "complete" list has two additional persons, Syed Amin Ahmad Hasnaini Mujadaddi and Syed Sarim Riyaz Hasnaini Mujadaddi, who do not appear in the presented sources. Only 37 individuals are mentioned on pages 25-29 of http://www.ghuncha-e-marfat.org/stn.html, with Syed Riyaz Ahmad Naqshbandi Mujadaddi being the final one. In other words, the "complete" list is original research and should be deleted. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:44, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It should be on the wikipedia like other golden naqshbandi chain, the book cant be reprinted with the updated names day by day but you can find all the mention names on http://www.ghuncha-e-marfat.org/mm.html (its has got all the names till now). we all are working for wikipedia foundation to make it a place for true & accurate information. Thanks User talk:Aasim001 06:, 49 October 2016 (UTC)
Delete This is one of the clearest cases I've seen in a while. There's only a single, questionable source for a list of names, most of which refer to people without articles of their own. This is a major fail of WP:GNG and there isn't even enough in the article or basic subject for the discussion to move beyond that. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:15, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete now i vote for to delete this page at the earliest. User talk:Aasim001 07:45, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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