Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadine Poss

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This AfD has been relisted twice, with no clear consensus emerging with regard to deleting, keeping, or redirecting. Further relisting does not seem likely to result in such a consensus. Deor (talk) 13:37, 16 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nadine Poss

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Is being a German Wine Queen notable? I think not. (Beer Queen maybe ...) Clarityfiend (talk) 04:47, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 04:48, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 04:48, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The answer is clearly "yes". Wine is a major German export and the German Wine Queen is the national representative of the German wine industry. She is not some local beauty queen, but an expert on German wines and an ambassador for Germany in this important arm of their economy. The article is well referenced too. The nom has put forward no argument for deletion other than stating an opinion and making the questionable suggestion that a beer queen would be notable by comparison. Bermicourt (talk) 11:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Coverage focuses on crowning and background, no evidence of this claim of notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:23, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wine-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:06, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:07, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, winner of a longstanding and important product queen title that comes with large amounts of national media coverage. (The beer queens have been introduced recently, but are of much lower notability). Wine is of much greater cultural importance than beer in the wine-producing regions of Germany. —Kusma (t·c) 18:06, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Article Updated. I have added more detail about Poss's role as Germany's national wine representative, fully referenced. No doubt there is more that could be added as the article is expanded, but it gives an indication of the role and it's international importance for Germany and the German wine industry. Bermicourt (talk) 18:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to German Wine Queen. I don't dispute the notability of the title but, for most of the recipients, there is nothing notable about them other than the title itself. A major exception, of course, is Julia Klöckner, whose article offers an instructive contrast with the instant article. In Klockner's article, her tenure as Wine Queen takes up only a single sentence. NewYorkActuary (talk) 00:18, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti ^Talk 19:27, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:47, 8 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to German Wine Queen. Curro2 (talk) 07:31, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:N, WP:GNG by a wide margin. Quis separabit? 05:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Odd, don't you think, to consider the representative of the German Wine Industry as less notable than, say, a fourth tier English league football player? Bermicourt (talk) 18:22, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirectto the title article. 4th tier ball players are a different problem. Legacypac (talk) 19:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable crown. and per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 21:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per BabbaQ. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:37, 14 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Has enough coverage to meet guidelines, though "German Wine Queen" does sound a dubious claim to fame!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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