Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/NKVDemon

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The result was delete. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:10, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NKVDemon[edit]

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This article fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 17:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 17:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. TTN (talk) 17:10, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails NFICTION/GNG. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:45, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep According to WP:Fiction specialized guidelines for fictional characters have not been created. NKVDemon is a notable comic book character. He has appeared several times in Batman and Aquaman comic books. Although he is not a reoccurring villain, he is certainly on the same level as the other D-list villains that have WP pages. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 04:36, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Other stuff exists" is not an argument. Articles must abide by WP:N. Fictional articles also must abide by WP:WAF and WP:NOTPLOT. This article fails all three. TTN (talk) 17:36, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article could be fixed to meet the criteria for all three of those. So instead of deleting it, why not fix it? The character itself is not unrecognizable in DC comics. And the reason I brought up other D-list character pages on WP is because those articles have established notability, despite their characters having a rather small role in the comics. This article could be brought up to snuff as well. -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 19:17, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You’d need to provide sources to make such an argument. I typically disagree with most sources presented in these AfDs, but I’d gladly withdraw anything I truly believe properly sourced. TTN (talk) 21:14, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You want me to provide you with sources that prove that NKVDemon has been prominently featured in DC Comics? -TrynaMakeADollar (talk) 08:17, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If the article can be fixed to abide by the above sources and guidelines, that inherently means you need to provide real world sources about the character, more than simply appearing in comics. If you don't actually understand them, I'd recommend reading them. They are non-negotiable when dealing with fictional topics. TTN (talk) 11:57, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Appearing several times in comic books does not make a character notable. No real world notability, fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 19:35, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I found a list which sums up my thinking. No WP:RS of an 'obscure batman rogue'. - ChrisWar666 (talk) 06:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - agree with the rest that the article fails WP:GNG. Secondly, I couldnt find anything about "NKVDemon" in all 3 links in reference section.

NKVDemon I at the Unofficial Guide to the DC Universe

NKVDemon II at the Unofficial Guide to the DC Universe

NKVDemon III at the Unoffiial Guide to the DC Universe

- Jay (talk) 07:03, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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