Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mustafa Kemal Ataküfr

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The result was speedy delete by Fastily per author request. ✗plicit 12:56, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mustafa Kemal Ataküfr

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Unsourced, with no indication of notability per Wikipedia:Neologism. In a WP:BEFORE search, I can find "Ataküfr" only mentioned in passing in a single, non-notable blog, and in a non-notable student essay on academia.edu. Storchy (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Islam and Turkey. Storchy (talk) 15:35, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – borderline CSD G1/G3. No results in real journal articles. No sources found in newspapers or anything. ~Styyx^Talk? 16:30, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I did consider speedy, including A11, since it's only mentioned on a single blog online. If I'm being too cautious, then I've got no objection if someone wants to BOLDly nominate this for speedy delete. Storchy (talk) 16:38, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn’t violate wikipedia rules, you can find an exact similar wiki page of “North Atlantic Terrorist Organization”

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_Terrorist_Organization Amr.elmowaled

That's Wiktionary. Different Wikimedia projects have different policies. Also, please see WP:WHATABOUTX. Storchy (talk) 17:12, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

atakufr nickname is used on social media among folks and i can bring up many posts and comments using it if asked, isn’t that enough to have an article about ?, is it a must to have the nickname mentioned in journals for example ? Amr.elmowaled

No, it must have significant use in WP:Reliable sources. If a newspaper wrote about people using it on social media, that would be a reliable source. But social media posts alone won't help us here. Storchy (talk)

the WP:Reliable sources you sent explains what qualify as information source about topics, not what qualify to having a wiki page about, as both of us already agreed that the nickname atakufr is widely used on social media among folks and many websites, the case here isn’t about reliable sources talking about atakufr in the first place, it’s about the existence of the term which both of us agree that it does and is already in useAmr.elmowaled — Preceding undated comment added 17:46, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, this discussion isn't about whether the term exists. It's about whether the term is notable enough for an encyclopaedia article. That's why we need reliable sources. Storchy (talk) 17:48, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have never seen this term in my life, so I don't agree that this is a "widely used" term. Maybe a dozen people do—at best. ~Styyx^Talk? 17:50, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can't find any sources for this nickname, whether reliable or unreliable. If there were any sources, it would seem more appropriate to discuss this nickname and why it was given in Mustafa Kemal Ataturk#Legacy, but without reliable sources I can't even recommend that. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete almost appears to be a Turkish meme to make fun of this person, but I don't see any sourcing for it. Oaktree b (talk) 20:57, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. The article consists of little more than a definition of the term, and it likely can't be expanded much further. Partofthemachine (talk) 04:22, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete though possibly insert a mention in Ataturk#Legacy. I can find some instances of this in online forums and blogs but it looks pretty fringe to me, and I don’t see any discussion in RIS. We don’t have an article on Mango Mussolini or Darth Putin either. Mccapra (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails GNG. If there was better sourcing I would suggest redirecting to the Atatürk article and adding a mention there. But there's no good sourcing.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 20:21, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above, and as soapbox spam. Bearian (talk) 19:16, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.