Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mushroom Corner, Washington

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The result was merge‎ to Lacey, Washington. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Mushroom Corner, Washington

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Declined PROD. This place is just a non-notable intersection. It was possibly once known as "Mushroom Corner" for a nearby mushroom farm, but that's an informal designation and does not amount to a "community". Today this is a busy intersection in a residential area of Lacey, WA, not a community in its own right, if it ever was. Furthermore, the article's second section is unsourced and WP:NOTNEWS applies even if it were. This place fails WP:GEOLAND. Thurston County does recognize a Mushroom Corner voting precinct: [1] but otherwise nothing could be found. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Washington. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:56, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge into Lacey, Washington. No one around here considers it a place. The fire mentioned really did happen, but I don't know that it really had lasting significance beyond the single news cycle. Jclemens (talk) 08:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I found a few sources which would make it so that this article could be kept.

😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 16:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I've seen all those when I reviewed this, they are passing mentions and unreliable sources that simply repeat other unreliable sources. James.folsom (talk) 23:54, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete The generic housing development at a former mushroom farm is not the same concept as Mushroom Corner even if it's near the same place. The two sources above do not discuss the named intersection. User:PaulGamerBoy360, Topoquest and hometownlocator are not actual sources...they just import data from GNIS and USGS maps... There's no indication this is a notable community. Reywas92^Talk 17:42, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
• Merge or rewrite Similar to Jclemens, I would suggest taking the current article info, minus the fire and some cleanup, and add it under either the History or Geography subsection for Lacey, WA. I've found numerous local reporting (hundreds, dude, hundreds!) characterizing/recognizing it as a neighborhood, but it is certainly not a separate community in its own right so hats off to the GNIS cleanup crew. On a personal note for the rewrite option - writing the article to be declared as a neighborhood (not out of the ordinary - good holy cracker jacks - just take a look at all the Seattle neighborhood pages!) - I'm a born-and-raised Olympian and the area has been called and referred to as a local neighborhood or place my entire (ahem...) 40 years on this planet. "Let's go hang with Jamie at Mushroom Corner...", "I had to cut thru Mushroom Corner so I can make it home before curfew...", and "Do you think we can score some (redacted) from (redacted) if we meet them by Mushroom Corner..." Yes...notability and not first-hand experiences and sentimentality, just to throw that out there. Complete removal of this content would be a loss of something that does exist. And that means, in my opinion, a loss of knowledge.
  • It would still get deleted because articles about neighborhoods generally get deleted.James.folsom (talk) 23:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

  Fair enough, unless it's a neighborhood in a big city...! If merge wins out, I've found a few excellent (local) sources (prob. similar to yours) that describe the area decently as a neighborhood/place well enough so this shouldn't be too difficult to place into the Lacey article. However, if the Lacey article doesn't work for some - I proactively created a draft to house future Thurston County PRODs or AfD's under the GNIS cleanup project - User:Shortiefourten/Former communities, company towns, and rail stations in Thurston County, Washington. Yes, it is a user draft (no, not trying to circumvent anything - just prefer creating drafts this way) but if you wish to help edit the draft, feel free. I'm not territorial, assuming you overlook all those assault charges when someone tries to eat my Ben & Jerry's. Since consensus hasn't been reached yet, and there's a possibility of outright deletion, I'm merely saving the info to edit/create later with all proper attributions and Merge/Redirect steps to follow.

  Shortiefourten (talk) 20:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

  If you think you have relevant sources for this article, you should share them so that we can account for them. Everyone here has access to differing sets of information, If there is info we don't have we should see it. James.folsom (talk) 22:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete or merge to Lacey Either is fine with me, and I follow with my original argument from the talk page: Meany doesn't even list this place, so its likely 20th century. In fact the news reports say the mushroom farm has been growing mushrooms since the 1960s [2], so this has only had a name since then. Currently, this is just a residential area in Olympia Washington and these usually get deleted at AFD. The county considers this an election precinct and I could accept merging this to a list of election precincts in that county. The Mushroom farm is now probably apartments. The fire mentioned in the WP article is just routine life and pertains to the farm, and not the community. The local paper for Olympia doesn't mention mushroom corner until 1967, and going forward from then it has always been an election precinct and road intersection. This is just a neighborhood in Olympia. James.folsom (talk) 00:38, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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