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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. CitiCat ♫ 00:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moral Aspect of Bankruptcy[edit]

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This is largely a reprint from an 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia article. While I'm sure it's in the public domain and a legitimate use of the text, it's a POV rant from the point of WP's policies. eaolson 01:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep or Rename As the author of it, I think that it could be a good article on the catholic view of bankruptcy. Granted it still reads with too absolute a view, and might need to be renamed to the Catholic View of Bankruptcy (which could then fill the place of the CE articles "Moral Aspect of Bankruptcy" and "Civil Aspect of Bankruptcy". I've tried to hit the blatant POV areas and the 19th century references. If you'd like to point out other "POV rants" I'd be willing to revise. Mbisanz 02:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete per nom, it's a POV piece, and it's also a piece of Original Research (even if it was originally published by the Catholic Encyclopedia) unless secondary sources are supplied to support the assertions made. Pete.Hurd 02:45, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Inherently POV. AniMate 02:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm somewhat new to the AfD process, but from my understanding, POV isn't a factor in deletions, sinces thats an article quality issue, and we have things like NPOV, BIAS, and other templates to label articles for improvement. I think the idea of renaming it to a more Catholic specific view on Bankruptcy might be a good idea. Mbisanz 06:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to Bankruptcy (Roman Catholic view) or similar (with a link from the main Bankruptcy article), unless it can be established that the RC position has substantially changed since the Catholic Encyclopedia article was written. The mentions of the relevant British laws, etc., may need to be updated, but the article is clearly encyclopedic and should be retained mutatis mutandis. Deor 03:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Should be deleted just because of the WP:NPOV problem. - Rjd0060 03:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete POV, and it doesn't look like it would make a suitable article on the Catholic view of bankruptcy. —Remember the dot (talk) 03:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. —Deor 03:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Bankruptcy, to solve the NPOV failure that article has by failing to address at all the religious and moral views of the subject therein. GRBerry 04:34, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per GRBerry with the original 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia article as reference. --Lenticel (talk) 09:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fundamentally it's an essay advocating a point of view, or rather, asserting a point of view as true, and as such is unsuitable for Wikipedia in anything like its current form. It would need to be rewritten more or less from scratch to be encyclopedic - changing the odd phrase here and there wouldn't change the underlying nature of the piece. In general, I'd also caution against using the 1913 Catholic encyclopedia as a source for the Catholic view on just about anything. It may be convenient, but it's nearly a hundred years out of date and a great deal has changed since then both in the church and in the world (not least Vatican II. There are far more up-to date sources to use instead. Iain99Balderdash and piffle 09:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Edit this page to improve it, but keep for now. Public domain, and POV can be fixed, article is about a noteworthy issue.JJJ999 04:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - anything of value worth salvaging (no need for me to get into that question) can be added to Bankruptcy. Dlabtot 17:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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