Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monsieur Adi

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The result was delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 03:57, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Monsieur Adi

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This page seems to be written by the person itself, especially because a personal Instagram selfie is being used. Almost all edits are made by Mattia86, probably the artist himself. Sources are doubtful (linking to promotional things he could've sent to the promoters himself) and there's an Instagram selfie as "artist photo". Please mind that this person has less than 200 followers on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/adambalbusse). Seems to me this is a classic case of "fake it until you make it".

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:59, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 09:59, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 11:49, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The subject fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. The refs cited in the article are either unreliable or promotional links to the subject's music. Versace1608 ^{Wanna Talk?} 17:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed that the article is up for a speedy deletion. The article has been running for years and Monsieur Adi has been working in the music industry for years. It is not just a case of "fake it until you make it" as timo I have been following him for years and the artist allegedly deleted all of his social media accounts except his verified Facebook page with nearly 15000 followers as well as on Spotify where the current number of monthly plays is at over 200,000 and some songs have logged million of plays. As for the photo, you will notice that the photo has been posted on his official pages. Linking to the artist's personal Instagram page is odd. Links to where he has been featured in the past on The Guardian, Out Magazine, Mixmag Magazine where his name is featured on the of an actual printed magazine cover, and others can be through Google just as I have. I am happy to prove I am not the artist in some way. Considering the level of work he has done and who he has worked with, deletion seems misguided and seems that this is targeted. I just felt the need to keep his page up to date and has been a personal pleasure to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattia86 (talk • contribs) 21:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as has coverage in multiple reliable sources as identified above such as The Guardian so deletion is not necessary in this case in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - - Sources are not appropriate. A radio station expecting something is not a reliable source of having achieved something. Also, the post on The Guardian is a blog post. It's not an in-depth article with credibility. Also, Mattia86 is not neutral in writing the article, as is expected on Wikipedia. Mattia86 is biased, seems to be "defending" the artist with Spotify plays, instead of objectively contributing. !testTimo92! (talk) 18:40, 5 April 2020

The Guardian article is not a blog and you nominated this article without signing it and then pop up with a delete vote which is very bad behaviour, especially as I reminded you yesterday to sign the nomination, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:04, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - If the radio station is not good enough for you, his name is listed on the Wikipedia page for the The Mrs Carter Show World Tour itself. Here you can find in this archive the print of the actual Billboard Magazine listing the box office totals for that tour right here. That seems highly reliable and I am sure Beyoncé would have shut this down herself if it was not true. In terms of neutral writing, I do not believe I have overstated or understated his work. I simply listed the facts that I got from multiple respectable sources and publications. Yes, I am a fan, but I imagine most people writing Wikipedia pages are fans of the subject or edits that they are making. Where in my writing of this article is it not neutral? As for The Guardian as well as Out.com, I do not think those count as a blog as it is connected to a newspaper and/or magazine that is in print and in this day and age, online articles are a legitimate and reliable source. And even if so, you will be able to find that he has been featured in multiple magazines, has had multiple releases of his remixes on major labels, and has been on a major tour. Even Beyoncé herself included him in her own video from her tour which can be found here on her own Youtube page where it clearly states that he is the DJ for the tour. Nothing has been made up and it has all be reliable. As for his work, take a look at Discogs.com to find a list of what he has done as well that you can find here. It seems that Timo92 is targeting this page/artist for some reason and I would be curious to know how and why they found this Wikipedia page if 1.) They did not know the artist before due to the lack of notability - which judging, by this being the first nomination for deletion in the 7 years this page has been up, Timo92 must know the artist somehow and 2.) was able to find the artist's personal Instagram page? It sounds like the case of someone taking something personally as this page has been on Wikipedia for years and has had multiple edits done by others that could have put this up for deletion had it not met criteria for being on Wikipedia. Would it then be right that someone allegedly having a problem against the artist when the artist has enough notability to meet the guidelines placed, be right to delete the article?

Mattia86 (talk) 22:40, 5 April 2020

– I am not sure what Timo92 has against me or this particular artist, but it seems there is something now. Please correct me if I am wrong. They stated that I committed vandalism of the page when I did not put the strike through their "delete" nomination. It was Atlantic306 and they explained why. Therefore I just put it back after the fact it was edited by Timo92 himself. Again, it is strange how Timo92 found this page after years of its existence and decided to nominate it for deletion as well as link to the artist's personal Instagram page in the nomination and now has accused me of "vandalism" when I did not do anything of the sort. If I am accused of being unbiased, I believe Timo92 is not unbiased as well in this situation given the circumstances. I state again, if this artist is not notable given the extensive coverage for years and has never had a nomination for deletion during its 7 years of existence, how did Timo92 find this article as well as the artist's personal page? It's either a case of knowing the artist through notability and/or knowing the artist in a personal manner somehow which then makes this a personal issue and therefore not an unbiased nomination. Mattia86 (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2020

Delete no chart ranks. Gritmem (talk) 20:08, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- Gritmem, here are some official club chart rankings from the UK. He is a part of Katy Perry's remix package for Rise where his name is mentioned which can be found on Billboard here. Finally, here is a link to Billboard where you can see his chart positions for his song Bad Habits. All the best. Mattia86 (talk) 13:10, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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