Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Monash University Faculty of Engineering

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The result was delete. NW (Talk) 02:34, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Monash University Faculty of Engineering

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as per WP:NOTDIR. no need for a directory of what comprises a university faculty. I'm sure this can be easily obtained from the university website. LibStar (talk) 01:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep First=order academic division of a major university., and therefore normally considered notable here. Presently just a list, but obviously expandable. Suitable place for merging information about the constituents and academic departments, that are normally non notable -- the university as a whole is too large a unit for this. Most things about a university can be learned from their website, & this does not preclude covering them in an encyclopedia , Some things, like details of buildings and personnel , and specific requirements for individual degrees , belong there only--these are not encyclopedic. But the basic information like this, is. A rule that we include nothing that can be found on a website is perverse: an effective way to eliminate the more important half of the content in Wikipedia. DGG ( talk ) 04:38, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

if information on the history, notable events etc etc then it is worth an article, but you have provided zero information/sources into the article to build it up. presently it is just a directory and thus violates WP:NOTDIR. simply listing an organisational structure that can be found on a website is not what for Wikipedia is for. information from website is valid when it is combined from several sources and represents indepth coverage. LibStar (talk) 04:41, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments, but am not opposing a redirect/merge if proposed DGG makes a good argument about getting information from a university. I completely agree with that. Where i differ is in its present state it reads as a directory. Which isnt ideal. I imagine as its been stated that as a large university there should be some relevant info to expand the article. Im not entirely famillar with the school, but news searches on google show some organizational issues which could be used to develop a history. The article is not there yet but I'm certain theres info out there if someone wanted to make the case for development. So right now I dont think it should be deleted but would rather it simply re-direct to the universities page until, Someone fammiliar of the topic takes a stab at making a stand alone. Just thoughts Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no source or content to establish notability separate from Monash University. As it stands, WP:NOTDIR.--70.80.234.196 (talk) 01:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per DGG. Tie Oh Cruise (talk) 01:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per WP:DEL#REASON point "Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia" (where not being a directory is mentioned).WP:ACADEMIC says nothing about an article/list such as this and I am not seeing any precedent to include this sort of thing without reliable secondary coverage.Cptnono (talk) 02:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete In the articles current form it is just an unsourced directory without a navigational function. Armbrust ^Talk _Contribs 04:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. —• Gene93k (talk) 16:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.