Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammad Fanaei
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Shimeru 00:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This man is apparently notable for only one event - being an assistant referee for the 1994 FIFA World Cup Final. Linesmen are not typically notable unless they go on to become proper referees. Even Fanaei's other claims to notability are not that special, as there were several other linesmen at the 1992 Summer Olympics and the 1995 King Fahd Cup, and others have been named AFC Linesman of the Year. – PeeJay 14:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: He is very well-known in Iran, and currently serves as a frequent commentator on national TV. Here is a link to the awards (The link in the article don't work).Farhikht (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Your comments don't really address his notability. – PeeJay 17:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Before being an assistant referee, he has refereed matches in Iran Pro League. In 1994, he was an official in the final match of Azadegan League between Esteghlal FC and Saipa FC[1]. He was also team manager of Iran under 23 soccer team but has been fired.Farhikht (talk) 11:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If that is true, it should be mentioned in the article with appropriate references. – PeeJay 13:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Before being an assistant referee, he has refereed matches in Iran Pro League. In 1994, he was an official in the final match of Azadegan League between Esteghlal FC and Saipa FC[1]. He was also team manager of Iran under 23 soccer team but has been fired.Farhikht (talk) 11:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Your comments don't really address his notability. – PeeJay 17:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. – PeeJay 14:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 03:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, yes he does fail ATHLETE. Because he isn't an athlete and that guideline has nothing about referees in it. Stephen Hawking fails ATHLETE but you wouldn't delete him. BigDom 08:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I would take issue with the relevance of the nominator's statement that "linesmen are not typically notable unless they go on to become proper referees", as nobody gets to be a linesman at the World Cup, let alone at the final, without being an experienced "proper referee" in a national league. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This is not true. The English linesmen at the 2010 World Cup, Darren Cann and Mike Mullarkey, are not full-time referees in one of the English national leagues; they are linesmen. That said, I don't know about the situation of the other linesmen at the World Cup, nor can I comment on previous World Cups. Nevertheless, I have seen no evidence that Mohammad Fanaei has ever been a proper referee, either in Iran or in a FIFA match. – PeeJay 02:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- This is from Associated Press. According to AP Fanaei is a a leading soccer referee.Farhikht (talk) 11:09, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: He's widely known in Iran. He was also the Head of Iranian Referees Commitee in IRIFF before. Amirreza talk 14:45, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Being widely known is not a guarantee of notability, and you have yet to provide any evidence that he has done anything that would confer notability. – PeeJay 11:31, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW (Talk) 14:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Does not pass the GNG from what I can see after a thorough search for sources. BigDom 08:49, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: I see no reason to delete this page. The man has obviously made certain accomplishments. This is information which someone in the world may be seeking -- which I believe is the general purpose of Wikipedia. Whether or not this person has reached a specific ranking or position to allow him a Wikipedia page should not be an issue. If he does later on go on to become a referee, then this page will be made again, and the research will have to be repeated. Is Wikipedia running out of hard drive space?? Ksaraf (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia's purpose is to cover notable topics, not to provide information that "someone in the world may be seeking". We have specific notability criteria for sportspeople, and it seems that this fellow does not meet those criteria. Oh, and if the article does need to be recreated in the future, an admin can simply restore the page, so no-one would need to re-research the topic. – PeeJay 15:05, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.