Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mission Vao

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The result was merge‎ to Characters of the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 20:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mission Vao[edit]

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Not sure if theres any SIGCOV here. I'm also having hard time of finding sources at google search that mainly talks about the character. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 12:59, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Video games. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Characters of the Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic series. I am not seeing sufficient significant coverage for an article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Borderline. A bit of sigcov in a couple books: [1][2] Combining with the Eurogamer source in the article [3] this probably can meet GNG, but it's borderline especially for a fictional element. A merge will make it one of the larger entries on the list, but that's probably fine. —siro χ o 18:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
~~Merge~~Comment Looking over the sources, unless I'm missing something I'm not seeing any real talk in a large amount as to why this character is important outside of KOTOR, or any in depth examination. I'll still trying to figure out what the "baseline" for notability is, but this doesn't appear to meet that.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The first two sources both discuss the character in context of gender representation, and other related aspects. Note that the second source draws conclusions independent from Eurogamer but also goes on to reference that article as well. The Eurogamer source itself discusses the character's reception in the context of the characterization of a 14-year-old girl. Overall, it's not so much that it couldn't be effectively covered in a merged entry, but it is indeed SIGCOV across multiple independent sources. —siro χ o 19:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@siro I think what really hurts the perception of things is that big mass of "top X lists" that aren't being cited to say anything. A character's rating on a list matters a lot less than what's being said on it, and some like Den of Geek are giving her a paragraph of coverage but not cited as such. I'm switching my vote to a neutral comment for now, but I really feel if it's going to survive it needs those sources to be gone through and rewritten with the weaker ones tossed, you know?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak merge per Kung Fu Man. A lot of these are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs. A rewrite might allow an editor to highlight the WP:SIGCOV instead of a WP:REFBOMB. But I don't see enough worth keeping here. Merge is a good WP:ATD. Shooterwalker (talk) 03:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.