Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mirzaganj Thana

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Mirzaganj Upazila. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:23, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mirzaganj Thana

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I declined A7 speedy deletion as the criteria doesn't apply to buildings. The article has already been sent to draft space, but the creator simply moved it back to article space again without improving it or adding any sources, so here we are. There is zero notability asserted and I don't see how this meets WP:NBUILD. Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:23, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture, Police, and Bangladesh. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:10, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion proposal is Confusing Ponyo said that the article is about a "building". The Bengali word "Thana" has two meaning. One is "police station" and other is "a type of administrative division". We use the word "Thana" to refer both police station and administrative division. In Bangladesh we have many type of administrative division. Upazila is a type of administrative division in Bangladesh. A Upazila can have many Thanas. And the funny thing is an area can have "Thana" (administrative division) and "Thana" (police station) in the same name. For example, we have Muradnagar Thana (refers to the administrative division) and Muradnagar Thana (refers to the police station). That's why the article states that the administrative division is a police station (and it is not false, Thana works as both). So I think it is unwise to delete the article (if the article is no hoax). So my advise is Keep. It is an administrative division in Bangladesh. We should keep it. Mehedi Abedin 19:39, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A "police station" in English generally refers to a building (see Police station). Given that there is no additional information or references in the article to provide any clarification, I imagine many of our readers will be equally confused. Your explanation, while appreciated, is equally confusing (at least to me). What is your policy-based reason for keeping this confusing, vague, unsourced stub? Note that I didn't nominate the article as a hoax, so pointing out that it actually exists isn't really a reason to keep the article. -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:50, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: It is confirmed from the article that it is about an administrative division, not police station building because the article states "All six unions of Mirzaganj Upazila." That means the Thana has six union council. That proved my point. Mehedi Abedin 19:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete/Redirect, no evidence that this meets WP:NBUILD. Mehediabedin's assertion that NBUILD doesn't apply due to it being an administrative division and not an actual police building is somewhat baffling, as the coordinates provided in the article leads to what appears to be a parking lot outside a building visible from satellite view listed as "Mirzaganj Police Station" on Google Maps, which suggests that the subject is indeed a building. The article for Upazila suggests that "Thana" is also an obsolete term to refer to an administrative district, but that interpretation would mean that the subject should be the already-existing article Mirzaganj Upazila, which would mean that this should be a redirect to that article. Neither interpretation of "Thana" as suggested (Note: I do not speak Bengali) would support the article remaining in its current state. Padgriffin ^{Griffin's Nest} 20:14, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don' think so. Because I clarified that the word "Thana" has two meaning. Now anyone can mention coordinates in the article to point the whole place in general (with its center in the police station building). And very few people know to create map data for any area in commons so they have no choice but using the exact pointed coordinates. Also it is possible that the creator of the article wanted to use coordinates to point the place, so they searched in google map the thana but got the coordinates of the police station building (because Thana has double meaning). It is possible that they couldn’t realise and accidentally used the coordinates in the article. So I think my assertion that NBUILD doesn't apply due to it being an administrative division and not an actual police building is correct in a way (if you count my possibility). Mehedi Abedin 21:46, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not understand who you are referring to as the article's creator. You created the article.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 22:07, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Vinegarymass911: Mehediabedin is not the article's creator, Arabi Abrar is. Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

my apologies.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 00:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Mirzaganj Upazila, per Padgriffin. If there is a reasonable chance to use the title of this article as a name for the Upazila, it should redirect. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:22, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
delete if your article can't explain to me if you're a police station or an administrative division, we can't verify notability. We have to be able to establish what the article is about first, which is a long way from GNG. Oaktree b (talk) 22:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mirzaganj Upazila. Looking at the article for upazila, these administrative divisions are also called (perhaps rather formerly known as) thana. If I'm understanding this here, it would make sense to redirect the former name of this place to its current name. It looks to me that the creator of this article wasn't intending to imply anything about that and simply aimed to creator an article for a non-notable police station. Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:03, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Mirzaganj Upazila-Administration Mirzaganj Thana was formed in 1812 and it was turned into an upazila in 1983 from Banglapedia.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 00:37, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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