Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Milwaukee Ale House
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Withdrawn NAC. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Notability not asserted. How is this bar any more notable than any other bar in the Third Ward? So what if it has a brief mention in a notable local newspaper, it hasn't received significant coverage. Royalbroil 01:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Nomination withdrawn Coverage in independent sources demonstrated. Royalbroil 13:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. I originally tagged this one for speedy, but it was saved by newspaper coverage. However, it is not enough to establish true notability, I'm afraid. Surely getting a visit from your local paper's restaurant critic (who picked your joint semi-randomly) isn't enough to make you notable. -- Blanchardb -Me•MyEars•MyMouth- timed 02:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. It passes the general notability guideline. Restaurant reviewers choose restaurants that are likely to be of interest to their readers, not random ones. -- Eastmain (talk) 02:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- So is it your opinion that all restaurants that receive a review in a local newspaper are notable and thus should be allowed to have an article in Wikipedia? Royalbroil 04:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Where the review is more than just a listing, yes. --Eastmain (talk) 13:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- So is it your opinion that all restaurants that receive a review in a local newspaper are notable and thus should be allowed to have an article in Wikipedia? Royalbroil 04:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. There is detailed coverage of the pub in several books. For example, this book[1] has a separate chapter about this pub, including its history. Similarly, this book[2] has a section about the pub that starts with "One of Wisconsin's most acclaimed brew pubs, the Milwaukee Ale House is a hangout for those connected to the microbrewing industry..." (a direct assertion of notability here). There is also substantial coverage in local newspaper, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: 246 hits in googlenews[3], much of it specific and detailed, e.g. [4][5], etc. Enough here to pass WP:N. Nsk92 (talk) 04:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per above. Sources establish notability. Article should be expanded though. --Banime (talk) 09:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.