Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Perry (Maxis)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No Consensus. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Perry (Maxis)

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This article fails to meet WP:BIO or WP:ARTIST. There are few matches in Google News and those than exist are tangential mentions rather than establishing notability. The current references are insufficient and there is little prospect of this improving in the future, particularly as the article has already been tagged for improvement for a year. Ash (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- Ash (talk) 15:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions. -- El on ka 15:52, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak keep. Dealing with the general notability guideline for persons first of all, it appears Perry has been mentioned in a couple of independent texts, albeit briefly, as evidenced by a quick Google search, for example [1]. Although this might not establish notability by itself, and would probably lead to a 'delete' from me, WP:CREATIVE's criteria 3 and 4 help establish this article's wiki-notability. Perry was a key player in the development of SimTower, a game which received both positive and negative reviews in several periodicals. This fits criterion 3 of the five WP:CREATIVE criteria: "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of... multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". In addition, the 'significant critical attention' component of criterion 4 could be applied to SimTower, therefore, according to WP:CREATIVE, Mike Perry is notable. However, the failure of the general notability guideline still concerns me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulieSpaulding (talk • contribs) January 7, 2010 ... thanks for picking that up Elonka... I must be that passionate about WP:CREATIVE that I forgot to sign :) JulieSpaulding (talk) 19:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He has a well documented important role at a notable company that has created notable products. --Alvestrand (talk) 17:34, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Does this really meet "played a major role in co-creating" some of the products? The mentions of him there are fleeting. Plus the fact that the first reference seems to be his personal website is somewhat concerning. GoCuse44 (talk) 03:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails general notability. Important game designers get major reviews to themselves, not mentions to other people. Miami33139 (talk) 22:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 21:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (as article creator). I have also improved the references for the article, since this AfD was first listed. --El on ka 22:18, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. Most of the info in this article, and the claim to fame comes from being in a management position at EA, and consequently being listed on the credits for a number of video games. There's very little independent coverage about him. Pcap ping 00:18, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
very weak keep article and topic don't appear to meet WP:N. That said, his roles are significant and it's plain that he's pretty well known in the field as he has penned, and had published, articles about his work (see article) plus he's been interviewed fairly often [2] for example. He certainly seems fairly well known and probably meets WP:ENT. But it certainly isn't a clear call. Hobit (talk) 21:25, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Close enough for me. This isn't just some random guy who works in QA for a game developer, which is the sort of entry our guidelines are intended to keep out. If the sources are a bit on the inadequate side, I think his obvious involvement in the design of notable games is enough to push it over. Powers ^T 14:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- (Check needed) No way is the photo in the megamers article above the same "Mike Perry" as in the current article photo, they even have different eye colours. Can someone find a way to check out if we are dealing with the same people or if this is a partial hoax?—Ash (talk) 14:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Concur that the photo is of a different Mike Perry. I don't think it's a hoax, it's just a case of it being a common name. --El on ka 19:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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