Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MicroMuse

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The result was no consensus. MBisanz ^talk 00:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MicroMuse

An online community, that doesn't appear to meet our present notability standards. Note: there was a "Micromuse Inc." that is company that was acquired by IBM last year, that WAS notable, but is it not THIS MicroMuse (not the naming differences). That IBM acquisition is now just a division of their Tivoli product line. This MicroMuse is a MUD that was started in the 1990s. Not one article links to MicroMuse, as seen here. The linked Wired article here as a source doesn't mention "MicroMuse" or "MicroMUSE", or any of the people associated with this MUD. This isn't a reliable source either. I'm not seeing if they are meeting our present WP:Notability requirements so wanted to put it up for review. rootology (C)(T) 15:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC) rootology (C)(T) 15:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions. MrKIA11 (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete — One reference link is dead, and the other consists of a trivial mention at best. In other words, no establishment of notability via verifiable secondary sources; fails WP:CORP. MuZemike (talk) 19:46, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The lack of citations from reliable sources in this article leads me to conclude that the article is not in compliance with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 19:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, in part due to a lack of sources and also because I can't find independent verification of it winning a NII award; best I could find was a list of finalists that year which MicroMuse is not on, although BBN Technologies is mentioned in both the MUSE's posted awards letter and the list of sponsors. Nifboy (talk) 23:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
keep. The article just needs some work. If Wikipedia deletes it, it is welcome at Wikiversity. --JWSurf (talk) 01:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I fixed the link to the Wired ref so that it now points to the correct page that mentions the subject of the article. Please see these refs which could be used to improve the article:

John Markoff, "The Keyboard Becomes a Hangout For a Computer-Savvy Generation," The New York Times, Page 1, August 31, 1993.
Time magazine: Ellen Germain, "In the Jungle of the MUD," Time Magazine, Sep 13, 1993.
Atlantic Monthly: Jacques Leslie, "MUDroom," The Atlantic Monthly, Sep 1993.
Book by Howard Rheingold: Howard Rheingold, The Virtual Community: Homesteading on the Electronic Frontier, a William Patrick Book, Addison-Wesley, New York, 1993. 325 pages. ISBN 0-201-60870-7.
Popular Science: Arthur Fisher, "The End of School?", Popular Science, January 1994.
Anna Duval Smith : Problems of Conflict Management in Virtual Communities, 1997 (Chapter 6 in Communities in Cyberspace, edited by Marc A. Smith and Peter Kollock, Routledge Press, 1998.

--mikeu (talk) 02:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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