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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Secret account 04:57, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mick Hayes (musician)[edit]

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This guy is a pretty decent guitar player (check out some YouTube videos). But the article is really not good: it's practically a promotional piece even after I did a bit of pruning. And I don't think he's notable by our standards--there is no record label, no notable shows, etc. There's some coverage in GNews but it's all from the Buffalo newspapers, and I don't think it rises to the level of notability by our standards. Drmies (talk) 04:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete—lack of good quality source coverage. Additionally, three Premier Guitar external links were added alongside the footnotes none of which even mention Hayes. According to the article, a few companies endorsed the artist, but that does not necessarily establish notability. Who knows though, maybe one day this guy'll be a huge rock sensation, perhaps part of some band; he's got some talent. But right now, no. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 13:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep —Well everyone I think the article should be left up. It looks great for one when you compare it to most articles on here that no one seems to mention. He is a NYS legend, he just played with Stevie Wonder 3 weeks ago in California- I watched about 10 different videos on Youtube of this that I could find (pretty impressive too actually). Just because a musician is not signed to a record label does not mean he is not worthy enough. I found that this artist has songs published through "Could Be Entertainment" and "Crucial Music" which is now the equivalent of a record label considering labels only sign musicians that suck (Nicki Minaj for example...). Everything is referenced and could probably be a little tighter there, but now a days this is how things work for musicians. He has... what does it say- 13 companies endorsing him? So I believe that it should be left alone and lets just make suggestions to the editor to tighten the article up.

Mick Hayes is an up and coming musician that is now playing all over the country with plenty of companies behind him- those companies do NOT affiliate themselves with just anyone. We should be encouraging musicians like this as I'm afraid there are less and less in the world. Also- sorry I did not sign in to write this I'm on a work computer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.50.53 (talk) 18:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:00, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vacation9 00:01, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject per WP:GNG. Pburka (talk) 04:26, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I had a good look round but couldn't find any news or book hits, and not much web hits beyond this, whose reliability I would question anyway. The list of endorsements is straight out of WP:GARAGE. Regarding 76.180.50.53's comment about him being "an up and coming musician" - that just means it's too soon to have an article - when he's got some chart success or major national news coverage, he can have an article then. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep —Someone that has played on stage with Stevie Wonder in the prime spot at the worlds largest music trade show (NAMM) is by no means a 'garage band'. All of his endorsers have pages for him on their websites- he's amongst some of the finest musicians on their websites [1] Keep the page this guy has it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.50.53 (talk) 02:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That source is affiliated with the article's subject, which means it is a primary source and an unsuitable source to establish any notability. Ask yourself this - if he really is that good, why has he had no chart success, and why have Rolling Stone never written about him? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:37, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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