Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Kapoustin

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The result was delete. Delete votes were stronger than the keeps. \ Backslash Forwardslash / (talk) 21:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Kapoustin[edit]

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Negative biography of a borderline notable subject. He is not independently notable of Canada attempting to have him released from jail. Brandon (talk) 08:18, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Borderline notability and frankly not worth the hassle. AniMate^draw 08:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral: On the talk page, another editor and I have been assured that reliable sources exist, and so there's been a lot of benefit of the doubt given. However, the original editors (one presumably Kapoustin himself) have so far failed to provide satisfactory copies of these (that pass WP:V). These editors also argue that the article is negative (and, at one point, libellous). Any contentious material is sourced however, and so not a WP:BLP violation. Assuming a consensus of delete, I see no reason why these sources can't be added to a recreated article at a later date when they are suitably available. The article and discussion have now turned to insulting editors' ability and professionalism, as well as notification of attorneys (no legal threats however). This has gone far beyond productivity; I don't see any progress on the talk page anymore, and so perhaps the best option would be to wipe and start over – maybe the two other editors (User:MKapoustin and User:Resident22) could be spoken to by a third-party to clear up anything? Fribbulus Xax (talk) 09:08, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: No objective reasons for deletion. Jingby (talk) 09:35, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, there's enough coverage over a sustained period of time that he passes WP:BIO and not simply as a WP:BLP1E. Despite nominator's statement, this isn't a negative biography. Nyttend (talk) 14:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The article isn't negative if you frame how the subject would like, that is a story of his struggle to fight his unjust imprisonment at the hands of Canada and Bulgaria. However, how it is currently (and most likely always will be) written the article is negative. Brandon (talk) 19:24, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral - As one of the editors that has been accused of libel and had my ability and professionalism maligned by the subject of the article, I shall only point out the subject has been given numerous opportunities to provide verifiable substance to the article to counter any statements that were believed to be inaccurate. I am not sure how this would fit as a WP:BLP violation since the current text appears to be adequately sourced. As has been pointed out, the talk page has deteriorated to threats and borderline uncivil comments followed by some "interesting" further allegations in a RPP. Unfortunately, the subject and the original creator have chosen to "attack a straw man" rather than providing verifiable substance. ttonyb1 (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - while he's had some coverage, I don't see why he's really notable. the article was originally created as a soapbox for his claims of unlawful imprisonment; that seems to be the subject's main drive, as judged by the talk page comments and the ongoing issues with legal concerns. While there may be a little more to his story than can be covered under WP:BLP1E it's still borderline, and because of his situation the article is not likely to be easily balanced, and will always likely lean to a negative POV. Not worth the trouble or the electrons. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:06, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Infobox reads "Known for: Imprisonment for embezzelment in Bulgaria". What else is he known for? Unless there is some significant coverage in reliable sources about a potentially wrongful imprisonment, I don't see this as being more than one event. BLP1E. Lara 20:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete While there's moderate coverage (see here), there's barely any coverage outside of Canadian sources; one small mention comes from the Dallas Herald, and a few from the Sofia Echo, located in Bulgaria (where he was imprisoned). It seems like nobody else noticed, which indicates to me the lack of notability. I say 'weak' only because the amount of sourcing available could potentially fuel a stub, though. Master of Puppets - _{Call me MoP! :D} 20:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Save and make a true overview Hi! Here are some links - as you are always saying - here should be both negative and positive sides of the subject. Thta's why I am giving you independent reviews about Michael Kapoustin, and you can see, that the first article about him is true. true story Bulgarian overview- this you should read until the end, because at the end of the article Bulgarian media understabds, that the hole black PR campaign was fabricated one more —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resident22 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC) — Resident22 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Keep: Michael Kapoustin is a milestone in the process of Bulgarian democracy evolution. A contradicting person, he is famous and emblematic for the the 90s, so an article the facts of his life must find . stefan.zhelev (talk) 02:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC) — stefan.zhelev (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete. Talking about the same event over and over doesn't make it more than WP:ONEVENT. What else was he notable for? Niteshift36 (talk) 14:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The story about Maher Arar is also about one event in his life, that has changed everything - why Michael Kapoustin doesn't have the right to have a story about the event, that changed his life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resident22 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment- The Maher Arar story is much more far reaching and broader than the presented Michael Kapoustin article. BTW - there are no rights associated with the creation of articles. If the article meets the criteria that has been discussed in depth in this AfD and the article talk pages then it should survive the AfD. ttonyb1 (talk) 21:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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