Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meredith Stricker

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The result was delete. Sandstein 15:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meredith Stricker[edit]

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Fails GNG and WP:NAUTHOR Graywalls (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Graywalls (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions. Graywalls (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. Graywalls (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep As much as I like poets and poetry, the references are atrocious and not effective. Looking in the usual garrets that poets hang out, I can't locate much either. I did find this jstor entry [1]. There is several entries in JStor that are published in the The Iowa Review. There is also several of her poem in Conjunctions Both of these are established American literary journals. I have changed it from Delete, to Weak Delete to Weak Keep. scope_creep^Talk 09:58, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Found this passing mention: [2]. It states Stricker was awarded the National Poetry Series Award. Looking it up at National Poetry Series. She is on the list at 2002. scope_creep^Talk 10:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the Iowa Review. In essence, it seems like readers/subscribers submit their poem to them and those selected gets published in it, not too unlike letter to the editor. However, being chosen as one of the few percent of Letters to the editor does not credit the submitter with a notability claim just on its own. It's a function of how many spots they have in mind to fill the upcoming issue vs how many items were submitted to them. Even if we were to attempt to go with the SNG, WP:ANYBIO's "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor", then, there better be a good source attesting to THAT award award as being generally well known AND significant . What I have in mind as someone passing notability to exist on Wikipedia simply by having an award is perhaps someone who has one of these awards. How it's looking now is there needs to be a reliable secondary source that is intellectually independent of the subject actually discussing in depth about the subject, or their piece that appeared in the Iowa Magazine. So far, there appears to be none of that. 10:42, 23 September 2020 (UTC) Signed by User:Graywalls Sig added by scope_creep^Talk 09:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Graywalls: That second part of your argument is ill-informed. Every group, whether it is doctors, poets, artists, philosophers, business people, all professional group, sports people and so on, all have their in-group awards and honours and the fact that they are not famous doesn't make them less significant, within that group. They are awarded by that group to that person as they see them having done exceedingly significant work that benefits them. Doctors in particular are know for awards that are massively prestigious within their organisation and can take decades of work to achieve, yet they are barely known outside their particular specialism. Wikipedia as a collection only represents only a fraction of these types of awards and honours. scope_creep^Talk 12:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 21:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I don't find the sources given convincing for notability based on independent sources. A minor award does not guarantee notability either (t · c) buidhe 23:40, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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