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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy deleted per WP:NOT. If the original authors would like the text of the article retrieved for them I would be happy to oblige per WP:BITE. --Cyde Weys 06:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Memorial High School Memories (Hedwig Village, Texas)[edit]

Unencyclopedic: "This page is designed to highlight the various memories students have from high school." Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is not a publisher of original thought, a free webhost, or for things made up in school one day. Delete (or maybe userfy,) merging anything suitable into Memorial High School (Hedwig Village, Texas) -- AJR | Talk 22:19, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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  • comment This article does not and will not include "things made up in school one day". Everything in the article is a real event that actually occurred at the school. Memorial is the most notable high school in the Houston-metro area, in the same vein as Laguna Beach High School is to Orange County. The Wikipedia community seems content with having content regarding the California high school; why are other areas not afforded the same privilege? 137.113.14.172 22:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
and 137.113.171.9 -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment My issue with this article is whether it is encyclopedic - I have no problem with articles about schools, but that is not what this is, it is a collection of high-school students' memories, and explicitly stats that it "should not be used as a reference source for factual information regarding Memorial High School". With regard to "Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day", maybe I shouldn't have cited that policy, but in my view Wikipedia is also not for thing that happened in school one day unless those events are notable. If you want to have a website for your high school memories, there are many places that will host such content, often for free, but Wikipedia is not one of them. If there are other "hish school memories" articles like this one then in my view those should also be deleted, I nominated this after seeing it in recent changes. -- AJR | Talk 23:11, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete there's nothing encyclopedic about this article. --Eivindt@c 23:30, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • commentAs an avid wikipedia user, i do not think that this article should be deleted. It is the chronicles of the 2005 graduating class at memorial high school, and includes real information and events. I know of many previous and current students at memorial high school who find this page to be an interesting, informative, ENCYCLOPEDIC, read. I find it insulting that editors at Wikipedia find this harmless and INFORMATIVE content delete-worthy, but find it in their hearts to host hundreds of articles chronicling different Pornography stars and the different types of current porn. If Milf Hunter can have an article on Wikipedia, why can't Memorial High Schools 2005 graduating class? - hawkril324 (talk • contribs)
Hawkril only edits are to the article in debate on nomination day -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Expel, I mean Delete. Not remotely encyclopedic. Sad as it is, hundreds of thousands of people care about milf hunter. Nothing remotely close to that can be said about the 2005 graduating class of any high school. This belongs in a yearbook or myspace. Wikipedia is neither. Please read WP:NOT. - Fan1967 00:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • My Stance Memorial High School is reputed to be one of the best public high schools in the country. The school is prominant in its community because it promotes the idea of original thought. This article does nothing other then attempt to show the true culture inside a memorial high school classroom, the experiences inside a class as it relates to the high school, and memories therein. I feel that if i was looking for a high school for my children, a site like this would be greatly benificial. Oftentimes, it is hard to find the nature of a community, especially if you are on the outside coming in. If someone were looking whether or not to enroll their students in a high school, magazine rankings and other national highschool rankings are too broad to suit the specific needs of that individual. The job of wiki-pedia is to allow the exchange of information to happen silmutaniously inside this network of fact finding individuals. If the comments included in this article were in fact false, and not condusive to a fact finding mission, it will be immediately edited by others, as such is the nature of wiki-pedia. I dont see any reason this article should not be included, and i dont see that it poses any threat whatsoever to the general wiki-pedia community as a whole. Many who come and look here will find the website to be very helpful, nastoglic, and often times amusing. There is nothing wrong with merging fact and fun, it can be done in a responsible manner that will endorse the community of Memorial, wiki-pedia, and all parties affected by it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.17.52.96 (talk • contribs)
This user has never edited outside this AFD -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nice. Now how is this encyclopedic again? BTW, another vote for Delete. Danny Lilithborne 01:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete The editors of MHS pages have shown to be malicious, inflammatory and uninterested in the conventions of the Wikipedia (see 1;2; the whole page in question). WARNING: editors of this page have been known to challenge other editors to boxing matches and duals. I appreciate the moving of most of the schoolcruft into this memories page. However, the whole concept of a memories page does not belong on the Wikipedia. I encourage the editors that have been involved in this to place your content into a Myspace group, Livejournal community or your very own website (you can even make it in the Wiki-fashion!). I encourage the vote counter to be wary of pack-voting on this AfD. ••\\/\//esleyPinkha//\/\\•• 01:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment to MHS users *looks at links and clicks tongue* You can't do that! Danny Lilithborne 01:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete So unencyclopedic it gives me scurvy. Choess 02:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Preserve it Collections of notable goings-on at educational institutions help define the culture of said institutions. Considering the noteworthy qualities of this particular high school, a living history of sorts is more than justified in this catalogue of knowledge.137.113.14.4 02:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This user has never edited outside this AFD -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It This page should not be deleted because some people think it treads on the reputation of Memorial High School. The page should be for the students and graduates who MADE the reputation for Memorial High School, especially for the 2005 graduates who set MHS in the spotlight through its achievements in all aspects of the school, especially through Athletics and Academics. Keep this page and the achievements that the students and graduates have made for MHS.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.122.33.103 (talk • contribs)
This user has never edited outside this AFD -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Let it stay!!!
    Despite the personal vendetta that Mr. Pinkham seems to have against memorial wikipedia pages(he has tried to get two shut down)[citation needed], this page is without a doubt encyclopedic; it gives information regarding events and characteristics of Memorial High School. Shutting it down would go agianst everything Wikipedia stands for, regardless of the ideas of a few misguided individuals(see above). Even if it only services a few hundred people a year, i doubt that a wikipedia page on the Pornography star Brittney Skye services more. (I'm not going to make the obvious joke...). The page should definitely stay....— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hawkril324 (talk • contribs)
Hawkril only edits are to the article in debate on nomination day -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 04:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I actually have a complete re-work of the main high school page in the works at the moment, so please avoid personal attacks or accusations of bias, . ••\\/\//esleyPinkha//\/\\•• 06:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Srong delete This is absolutely not what Wikipedia is for. -- Hirudo 03:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I don't think you guys have any idea what Wikipedia stands for. Danny Lilithborne 03:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, please. --Fang Aili 說嗎? 04:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Transwiki .... to their own MediaWiki. Cyde Weys 04:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a secret "delete", no? Kimchi.sg | talk 04:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete, merge any useful content into Memorial High School (Hedwig Village, Texas). This is indeed NOT what Wikipedia is about, instead put it on a separate website and link to it from the high school's main article. -- SonicAD (talk) 04:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Additional comment And if this article by some miracle stays, I'm starting an article about memories from MY high school days, including Mr. Hector (who swore a lot, but was a nice guy), Mrs. Weiselberg (total bitch), and one of my classmates, Brandon, whose seemed to only say "DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT IT!!!" for our whole senior year. Seriously, none of this is notable. There is a place for this kind of stuff, but not here. -- SonicAD (talk) 04:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Wikipedia is not a memorial for some high schooler's memories. Trust me, in five years you won't want to remember any of this anyway. ;) -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 04:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete, WP:NOT a diary for school memories. There is myspace and livejournal if you so desire to record memories online. Kimchi.sg | talk 04:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Delete Virtually zero notability and huge doubts as to how it is verifiable. --Cini 04:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong delete. Wikipedia is not a high school yearbook. Please review WP:VANITY if you still think this is an appropriate article. --Metropolitan90 05:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment: It saddens me that none of you went to a particularly outstanding high school. Yet at the same time, I fail to see why your envy warrants raining on everyone else's parade... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.113.14.172 (talk • contribs)
    It has nothing to do with envy. I loved my high school, great teachers for the most part, great people, great times, etc. That's not the point though, it's simply about how notable and verifiable this information is. The fact that a student often yells out "Penis!" in class is not notable in any way, unless it's someone who him or herself is notable (in which case it could be mentioned in said person's own article, if it's somehow relevant). The best thing to do is make your own website, even your own wiki. You can make your own rules there, but this page doesn't meet Wikipedia's rules.-- SonicAD (talk) 05:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - unencyclopedic --Ajdz 05:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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