Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meet Meline

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete, but the Wikifaeries wept. Gwen Gale (talk) 07:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meet Meline

Seems to be a non-notable short animated film. I could find no significant coverage in reliable third party sources. Polly (Parrot) 14:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sources currently on the article are not sufficient as they are self-published. The IMDB link actually just goes to one of the creators. A google search turned up very few hits with nothing reliable to establish notability. Googling the creators also turned up nothing useful. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 03:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, WP:CRYSTALBALL may cover this as the article states that the film will not be released until 2009, as well as WP:COI since most of the article was written by Sebastienlaban who is one of its creators. As well as no reliable sources to establish notability.--Captain-tucker (talk) 16:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, "Meet Meline" is a serious work-in-progress animated shortfilm. We started working on it since October of 2006. We maintain a production blog here. Since then, the blog has been visited more that 130.000 times and is rated 4.76/5. Sebastienlaban (talk) 16:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, since Meet Meline is a film the notability guideline that covers this article is WP:NOTFILM and its general guideline is A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The problem with keeping the article in wikipedia is that since the film has not been released so we can not find and the editors working on the article have not provided any sources that meet the general guidelines in WP:NOTFILM. It's great that the blog has been visited 130,000 times but that does not do anything to meet the requirements of WP:NOTFILM. In addition, there is a specific section WP:NFF that says "Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles, unless the production itself is notable per notability guidelines." Once the film is released and there is significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject then its highly likely that the article will meet the criteria in WP:NOTFILM. --Captain-tucker (talk) 16:15, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.