Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McAllen Medical Center

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The result was no consensus. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:56, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

McAllen Medical Center

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non notable hospital. Content is almost entirely directory information only; minor awards, minor local references. "Primary stroke center", btw, is the lowest category of stroke center. "A Level III trauma center does not have the full availability of specialists" etc. for rankings that really demonstrate non-notability. DGG ( talk ) 04:13, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails WP:ORG. all the coverage is routine like a patient being taken there for treatment. LibStar (talk) 06:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My inclination is to keep. There IS coverage other than a patient taken there for treatment, for example this - which points out that McAllen is "the regional referral center for the critically ill" and "has some of the most sophisticated medical equipment in the (Rio Grande) Valley". But if the consensus is that it is not notable enough for a standalone article, I would recommend a redirect to Universal Health Services, its parent company. --MelanieN (talk) 14:08, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

those are remarkably imprecise statements that almost any hospital can assert, and most all of them do, with the appropriate geographic variation. So far from counting them as indicating notability, I count them as indicating promotionalism. DGG ( talk ) 20:17, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It's a hospital with notability. SilverSurfingSerpent (talk) 21:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ITSNOTABLE. you haven't demonstrated how it meets notability. LibStar (talk) 23:45, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Libstar, don't cross out people's votes, just your own. A bad argument will be ignored without your interference. Earflaps (talk) 15:30, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind - apparently I need to scold someone else for striking without explaining here that the editor was a sock. Abotu voting on this topic, undecided for now. Need to look more into the references. Earflaps (talk) 15:33, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:48, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:19, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - seems some recent non-trivial coverage is floating around, like this staff writer piece [1] Earflaps (talk) 15:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

that's incredibly local coverage and would fail WP:AUD. LibStar (talk) 23:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not sure why it stands out enough to justify an entry. Heyyouoverthere (talk) 19:11, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I've looked around and added a couple more sources to the article, including a recent peer-reviewed study ranking the 50 most overpriced hospitals in the United States; of which this ranks 48. I'm inclined to treat hospitals much the way we treat secondary schools, recognizing that large, regional hospitals will nearly always be notable. This one apparently is notable for charging an arm and a leg.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 21:57, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I also notice this edit which removed a list of awards the hospital has won. I understand the rationale behind removing the list; it could be considered promotional; but at least a few of those awards were sourced, and many subject-specific notability guidelines such as WP:NMUSIC, WP:NWEB, WP:PROF, WP:NBOOK, WP:NOTFILM, and WP:NSPORT take major awards as evidence of notability. In fact, I now see that one of the sources I added is one of the awards that was removed. So this is additional evidence that the hospital is notable and the article should be kept.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 22:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Being on a list of the most overpriced hospitals, no matter how reliable the list, does not conceivable constitute notability. DGG ( talk ) 02:50, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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