Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maynard (Australian media personality)

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The result was keep. v/r - T P 20:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maynard (Australian media personality)[edit]

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Seems to be some obscure local DJ. Very few references can be found. Only one on imdb.com. Not notable. A significant contributor to the page was the subject himself. Check the history page for user Maynardox. Harizotoh9 (talk) 10:11, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep nationally broadcasted Triple J DJ back in the pre-google days, so no real surprise that he isn't well covered online. The-Pope (talk) 15:39, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Well, if he was notable then, you'd think I could find more on the guy. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 21:00, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you realise that between 1987 and 1995 (when he was the on air as doing the breakfast or sunday arvo show on the Australian national youth radio network) that Google didn't exist? Australian newspaper archiving is very poorly covered online between 1960-2000, especially the 1990s. Since then, if you only measure him on his recent work, then he may not be notable (although the foxtel hosting stuff probably is). The strange name syntax of "F#" (F-sharp) may not help in the searches, but I've asked someone with access to a non-google news archive service to help search other databases. The-Pope (talk) 00:11, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IKNOWIT doesn't cut it as a reason for keeping. There is nothing wrong with giving offline sources. 01:38, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I was countering your "obscure DJ" reason for deletion. Ironically WP:IDONTKNOWIT redirects to the same section and could sum up the opening line of your nomination. I also gave a specific reason why WP:GHITS should not be used in this case and also mentioned that I've asked another editor to try to find offline sources. If you want to know how he may qualify to be kept (assuming that the offline search doesn't easily meet WP:GNG), then WP:ENT #2 "Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following" would easily apply for the late 80s early 90s period and we are working towards getting refs to prove it. The-Pope (talk) 04:25, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Certainly received plenty of quality coverage during his Triple J years, though as The-Pope points out, not an awful lot is online. Here's a couple [1] [2] Doctorhawkes (talk) 07:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete Just checking the two sources supplied, they seem to be close, or if not close, at least somehow related to the subject's place of employment. 2JJJ is a radio network owned by the ABC, and both of the sourced articles are from the ABC website. Just wondering if this may have some baring on the sourced articles integrity? Whitewater111 (talk) 07:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you really doubting the integrity of the Australian national public broadcaster? Would you do the same to the BBC or NPR? Yes, they aren't independent sources (as stated above we are looking for offline sources for that), but the online ABC sources absolutely confirm his employment details and are absolutely reliable. The-Pope (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not so much doubting the integrity of the ABC it self, but I was more concerned as the articles being sourced from the place of the subjects employment, they might of been written in a somewhat embellished manner. If more online and offline sources can be found independent of the place of employment such as the one you noted with the Sydney Morning Herald, then I'd be happy to withdraw my vote Whitewater111 (talk) 22:58, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Well-known DJ at the time on a national radio station. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Tunn - Maynard was a Triple J DJ shortly before Tunn, and the availability of sourcing through the Factiva database should be similar. Nick-D (talk) 23:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Some of the sources I found are below. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doherty, Ben (21 September 2001), "Maynard To Replace Lavaring", Newcastle Herald

SQUIRES, TONY (16 September 1994), "RETRO-CTIVE GIT", Sydney Morning Herald

HOWELL, ANNE (7 September 1989), "MADD, MAD WORLD OF MAYNARD", Sydney Morning Herald

I'd be interested to read up on those sources, I've just never heard of the guy. Any chance these articles can be scanned and placed online? I just done a search on google, and the National Libraries "Trove" project, and couldn't find the articles there, I thought they might of at least scanned them in there. Whitewater111 (talk) 23:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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