Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Rose (politician)

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The result was redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in New York, 2018#District 11. There is consensus that this is an appropriate redirect target, and no consensus for deleting page history. (non-admin closure) — Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:53, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Max Rose (politician)[edit]

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Per WP:NPOL and WP:POLOUTCOMES, this individual doesn't yet meet our notability standards. He's a candidate, not an elected official. We don't typically count the usual coverage of campaigns toward notability. He doesn't meet GNG on his own. In addition, the article appears to have been created and heavily edited by a WP:SPA and possible WP:COI editor, and is promotional. Marquardtika (talk) 19:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Since he is an unelected candidate and no other plausible claim of notabilty is made, he fails WP:NPOL. If someone chooses to write a neutral article about the 2018 election in New York's 11th congressional district, then a redirect is appropriate. If he wins, the article can be restored instantly. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:30, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. —AE (talk • contributions) 02:51, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. —AE (talk • contributions) 02:51, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. —AE (talk • contributions) 02:51, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:03, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect if a suitable redirect target can be found - article was originally very WP:PROMO, and while it was cleaned up a bit, still has the same problems as before. SportingFlyer talk 06:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment United States House of Representatives elections in New York, 2018#District 11 is an appropriate redirect target. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:43, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks for noting this. I should have mentioned this in my nomination. Marquardtika (talk) 01:59, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This article is well sourced, and congressional candidates can be notable. Otherwise a redirect would be preferable to deletion. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 17:14, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in New York, 2018#District 11 as an usual and appropriate outcome for congressional candidates. While candidates can be notable, it is because they receive coverage that is much greater than normal, either receiving significant international coverage or that their election is reflective of broader (or innovative) campaign trends. Otherwise, our community has consistently seen candidates and campaigns as WP:BLP1E - with the campaign as notable. --Enos733 (talk) 16:54, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect. While it's true that candidates can be notable just for being candidates in certain circumstances, those circumstances are not just "campaign coverage exists" — campaign coverage always exists for every candidate in every election, so the actual circumstances needed to make a candidate a special case over and above other candidates require a depth of coverage that goes well beyond what's simply normal and expected. But there's no compelling evidence of special status being shown here at all, neither a credible claim of preexisting notability for other reasons besides the candidacy nor a depth of coverage that marks him out as somehow more notable than most other as yet unelected candidates in the current election. Bearcat (talk) 17:48, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and redirect Fails WP:NPOL and has only received routine coverage related to his candidacy for office. No other significant coverage or claim to notability. AusLondonder (talk) 02:49, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - he's gotten lots of media attention and has a decent chance of an upset. If it's not kept, I strongly urge a redirect as we do in such cases. Bearian (talk) 00:51, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in New York, 2018#District 11 as per usual. I can find no pre-campaign INDEPTH or WP-defined notable accomplishment .E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:50, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in New York, 2018#District 11. Campaign related information can be added there, but candidates do not meet WP:NPOL.
Redirect to United States House of Representatives elections in New York, 2018#District 11 per above. Sdmarathe (talk) 16:23, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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