Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Adler (actor)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Now that we have made up our minds, The result was Keep (non-admin closure) Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do? 00:36, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Max Adler (actor)[edit]

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Not notable JDDJS (talk) 14:16, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- Jclemens-public (talk) 15:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - actor on an incredibly popular network TV series. Google news search on ("Max Adler" glee) shows many reliable sources, such as MTV, CNN, Huffington Post, and others. MikeWazowski (talk) 15:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Agree with Above. Actors and artistic performers should not be deleted by armchair critics who have no personal knowledge or have actually seen them perform. Rather than deletionism why not try to improve the content or reach out to the contributors by obtaining more information?

~~PsychClone (talk) 23:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)~~ [reply]

Ignore troll's comments. JDDJS (talk) 21:17, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indef blocked troll CTJF83 chat 00:24, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Max Adler's role on Glee just became very important to the dialog on adolescent bullying, particularly as it applies to LGBT youth. Yes, the article needs fleshing out, badly, but that will happen if given the chance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.244.59 (talk) 23:38, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just because he has a seminotable role in Glee doesn't make him notable. Can someone name other roles he had? JDDJS (talk) 02:10, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~. While Adler's name pops up in 20+ Google News results, the majority are either Glee plot recaps or cast lists, not significant coverage of the actor himself. Notability isn't inherited from Glee, and his earlier appearances appear to have been very minor roles, eg. 'Guy #2' in Demons. I was initially undecided and went looking for sources which could be used to expand the article. All I turned up was an interview with Zap2it, and a one minute Fox video on the high school he went to. I don't believe this constitutes the significant depth of coverage required to meet the notability guidelines. Frickative 02:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to point out that this user is one of the most active Glee editors. So if they're biased to any side, it would be to keep. JDDJS (talk) 03:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Keep per Frickative....~~if he starts getting more non-trivial coverage, and gains a more recurring, major role in Glee, then this can be recreated.~~ CTJF83 chat 22:41, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Due to more coverage from recent episode. CTJF83 chat 23:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Why this is even up for debate is beyond me. This person is obviously notable and I believe you will find many people will make sure that he has a spot on Wikipedia. Is this censorship based on homophobia? I've got to wonder. If this page isn't kept, I will contact major media sources to inform them of Wikipedia’s homophobic censorship. Furthermore, if "Jonah Falcon" can have a Wikipage for his "Large penis", an actor in a hit show is under debate?! Simply disturbing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Webshaun (talk • contribs) 08:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please give examples of how this actor is "obviously notable". What if someone has never seen the series? How would (s)he know? And sure, you can go right ahead and do that; I doubt anyone in "major media sources" will really care about the goings-on of one of three million articles on an online encyclopædia. Also, I am not sure how deletion of this article would be homophobic; playing the rôle of a character who has an on-screen gay kiss does not make the actor gay. I especially doubt that if it was the first gay kiss in his life, so I don't know what conclusions you're jumping to. And the article you've given is a moot point—a perfect example of WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Yves (talk) 11:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ya, and don't even claim homophobia, cause my initial !vote was delete. CTJF83 chat 23:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amending my stance to a tentative keep, with thanks to Bovineboy2008 for linking me to Adler's It Gets Better video. In the few days since my delete !vote, Adler has been touted as an anti-gay bullying advocate by The Wall Street Journal. He has been contacted by and recorded a video for the It Gets Better Project, and spoken at the Anti Defamation League Concert Against Hate. I've expanded the article to reflect this, and while it's still very much a stub, I think there's just about enough there to demonstrate the subject's fledgling notability. Frickative 14:29, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.