Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Masami Ishikawa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Not sure there is valid reason for a redirect, that discussion would best be held at the Sega article. No bar against if if there is a consensus for such. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:04, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Masami Ishikawa

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Doubtful notability, man with a job The Banner talk 01:32, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

At least refactor/dab with baseballer ja:石川雅実 and any possible notable others. Just like at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hisashi Suzuki a lot of people can have that same romanization for various different Japanese names. 野狼院ひさし u/t/c 11:35, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 23:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Lack of third party sources covering the subject on specific detail. Sources currently in article don't do this. ;They focus on the product, not the person - the subject here.) Also okay with merge/redirect to some Sega related article. Sergecross73 msg me 02:11, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Sorry, but I don't agree with the case presented here. The Polygon piece in the article represents an in-depth interview with Ishikawa (which is actually a book excerpt), as does the other source. Yes, they're focusing on the hardware - but that's because they're interviewing him specifically on those topics, and on his involvement with them. Whilst this may not satisfy the most common interpretations of GNG, I feel it certainly satisfies the spirit of the guideline, and probably the letter of it as well. Factor in the fact that he was head of the development team of major consoles with Sega, and it seems only sensible to have some kind of article. It is also worth noting that Japanese sources are pretty much guaranteed to exist, although I lack the ability to actually search for them myself with any degree of accuracy. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:54, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lukeno94, interviews aren't typically considered secondary coverage though. Masami Ishikawa's words on Masami Ishikawa is considered a first party account. I mean, if there's more/better sources out there to flesh out an article, I could be swayed, but as long as its a few sentences based off of an interview or two, the best care scenario should be a redirect/merge to something Sega related. Sergecross73 msg me 21:05, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I know they're not typically considered secondary coverage, and I will freely admit I'm voting with a liberal interpretation of GNG based on what I feel the spirit of the guideline is. Given that he has been sought out for interviews on the globally significant Mega Drive/Genesis project, and his role in that project, I do believe he justifies an article. I wouldn't be opposed to a redirect being in place if consensus does swing away from keeping this article; outright deletion seems a tad daft. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 21:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Easy redirect to Sega Genesis, where he is mentioned by name and for which he is best known. Article topic lacks significant coverage from reliable, independent sources. (?) The best hit, the Polygon interview, is not ABOUT him but the Genesis, for which (again) he is best known. There simply isn't enough extant (or easily extant) material such that we can write a full article about the individual. He had no meaningful hits in a video game reliable sources custom Google search and doesn't have a page on jawp that we could scrape either. Please ping me you find more (non-English and offline) sources. – czar 15:35, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Agree with Czar and Sergecross73 here. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Sega Genesis Heyyouoverthere (talk) 07:24, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete He is mentioned there , but just mentioned. That's not enough to justify a redirect. DGG (at NYPL) -- reply here 23:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

He led the project's development and it's a quite a major project at that. He's "mentioned" several times by name. It's a useful redirect as a search term. – czar 00:03, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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