Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maryland–Rutgers football rivalry

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maryland–Rutgers football rivalry

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WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Currently there are zero citations which reference an existing rivalry, with the four current citations citing the desire to both create a trophy and a rivalry. So rivalry claim is not currently established. Searches do not return significant coverage in independent sources to meet GNG standards ("significant coverage"). Secondary (non-GNG) indicators of few historical matches and only 6 recent matches in the current Big Ten. Fails GNG, might be WP:TOOSOON. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:45, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there seem to be more articles about them trying to get a trophy for a manufactured rivalry. I don't care either way about whether this is kept or deleted, but it's clearly a "manufactured" rivalry. SportingFlyer talk 03:39, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Vorbee (talk) 07:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and questions. Interesting AfD. Not much history between them, but I don't think it's so much a "manufactured" rivalry as having been forced on them: They are the newbies in the Big Ten and also the two easternmost schools (180 miles from each other and many hundreds of miles from the rest of the conference). It seems inevitable that, if it hasn't happened already, this will develop into a true rivalry. Who else does Rutgers have as a rival? The Princeton–Rutgers rivalry has been defunct for almost 40 years. Does every FBS school warrant at least one current rivalry article? I'm not sure, but if so, Maryland is Rutgers' only option. Cbl62 (talk) 19:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's "manufactured" in the sense the schools are trying to create a trophy amongst themselves, as opposed to having a natural rivalry develop. FBS schools don't warrant current rivalry articles unless they pass WP:GNG, and there's some talk about it since the schools are apparently trying really hard to make this a rivalry. It may get past WP:GNG on that alone, since there's a number of sources which discuss it. SportingFlyer talk 21:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now. As noted above, I think this will inevitably evolve into a true rivalry, but the sources just aren't there yet to support it. Like the sources referenced by UW Dawgs, the sources I found on Newspapers.com (here, here, and here) talk about a "potential" or "possible" rivalry developing in the future. Once it evolves sufficiently and/or if it becomes a trophy game, then I for one would be open to the article being re-created. Cbl62 (talk) 01:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a few games in the past with two teams that now are in the same conference--this isn't a "rivalry" it's just a history. It could become a notable rivalry in the future, but just isn't there yet. At least, not that I can see.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom and Cbl62. CalebHughes (talk) 20:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there might be a point in the future where the rivalry meets the notability standard, but at this point it's WP:TOOSOON. Alansohn (talk) 01:23, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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