Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvel Super Hero Adventures: Frost Fight!

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The result was redirect to List of films based on Marvel Comics. (non-admin closure) SST flyer 03:25, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Marvel Super Hero Adventures: Frost Fight!

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I could only turn up insignificant coverage in news media (IGN, which is not a major media outlet; WP:N This page in a nutshell: "those that have gained sufficiently significant attention by the world at large and over a period of time") about this direct to video film. Information found from IGN could fit in table at List of films based on Marvel Comics (currently under discussion at Talk:List of films based on Marvel Comics#Frost Fight). Spshu (talk) 18:56, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:16, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:16, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Let this page stay. It is a good movie which had different Marvel characters in it. If we can at least get more sources and an expanded plot, we can get this page to be at the same state as the Marvel Anime films. --Rtkat3 (talk) 20:02, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- — Note to closing admin: Rtkat3 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:32, 13 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of films based on Marvel Comics, but with no objection to restoration when more sourcing becomes available. Right now there's just not enough to justify an article at this point in time. I found one review by CSM and two articles where it's trivially mentioned, but that's not enough to justify an article at this point in time. It's possible that it could get another review or two later this year, but we can't guarantee that per WP:CRYSTAL - it could be just as likely that Marvel will release something else to capitalize on the holiday season and this will be left in the dust. (Offhand though, I hope it becomes a cult classic because seriously - Loki vs Santa? XD) I think that redirecting this with history would be a good compromise. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Regardless of how big or small it is, it should still be kept. Curious George: A Very Monkey Christmas is arguably the bigger special, yet has significantly less detail than Frost Fright. It has very basic information, but it has the essentials that makes it worth keeping. It just needs more work. Like maybe a production section, as this has Captain Marvel, yet at that point in Assemble, she hadn't even joined the Avengers. It also doesn't involve Man of Action. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 01:12, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: That is Wikipedia:Other stuff exists which is not a valid argument in this case. Frost Fight has to stand on WP:notability on its own. With out major reliable sources, which two editors indicate are there, it doesn't meet notability. With I have found, all of the info reasonably fit at List of films based on Marvel Comics. Spshu (talk) 01:23, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, because you want to add a description of what it's about, too, which just doesn't fit there. And the fact that I brought A Very Monkey Christmas up is because that is a page about a Christmas special that has even less than Frost Fight. Just because you don't see Frost Fight as page of notability, doesn't make it true. And you're the only one who's opposed this page. -- Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 08:22, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Look again, Tokyogirl79 supports the position that the film isn't notable now. I gave reason for it not being notable; you have not. Spshu (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, you got me. I didn't see that, but to be honest, I'm just seeing a bunch of babbling just because it doesn't have a lot reviews. The fact that it's acknowledged is enough. This isn't just some random 22 minute episode. It's an hour special. Don't make a fuss about something there doesn't need to be a fuss about. Instead of arguing about its faults, you could help build the page like I've kept on saying, then it wouldn't look so insufficient. -- Tokyogirl79 just wants it deleted because Marvel will probably do another that leave this forgotten. We don't delete pages just because something newer comes along. There's no logic in that. Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk) 23:13, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anythingspossibleforapossible (talk · contribs) has a point there. --Rtkat3 (talk) 15:40, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, he doesn't have a point. Just the fact that it exists and is an hour special does not make it notable. The so called "babbling" is the fact that there isn't enough information to build the page to be sufficient. Just say that this information exists when others are telling you they looked and could not find enough is not a point, nor logical. Spshu (talk) 18:52, 17 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of films based on Marvel Comics as the coverage it does get in reliable sources is limited and does not substantiate enough content to warrant its own separate article. Useful content can probably be merged as Spshu has suggested. —Mythdon 14:25, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:31, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Redirect to List of films based on Marvel Comics instead, as per WP:NOT| Democratics ^Talk| How may I help you? 10:44, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of films based on Marvel Comics. The subject is notable enough to be mentioned, but I couldn't find enough sources to say it's notable enough for it's own article. I wouldn't oppose merging the cast information to the list, although a new column would need to be added. Argento Surfer (talk) 18:10, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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