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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Additional focused discussion of sources indicates consensus for GNG. Fenix down (talk) 07:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Margaux Le Mouël[edit]

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fails WP:NFOOTY Mightytotems (talk) 20:19, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems (talk) 20:19, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Mightytotems (talk) 20:19, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:31, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 21:04, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 21:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 09:12, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NFOOTY failure. Number 57 13:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete it is time we put a stop to the proliferation of articles on non-notable footballers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:15, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • How about we start with the men who played one game for a vaguely-notable professional club somewhere in 1971 and not the top-tier women in major soccer countries, hey? The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. She plays in the top-tier league in France. (She has quite a bit of coverage on that basis, too.) That NFOOTY argues for keeping tens of thousands of articles on one-game male players who could not pass GNG in a million years but tries to suggest that top-tier women players aren't notable isn't a problem with the articles or the topics, it's a problem with Wikipedia:WikiProject Football that needs correcting urgently. The Drover's Wife (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Here are a few refs to get started on if Kokoeist or MightyTotems (or any other editor) would like to expand the article + references to meet WP:GNG per WP:ATD:
Hmlarson (talk) 00:05, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep She plays in a top tier league (Division 1 Féminine). Meets WP:NFOOTY. End of story. And before anyone comes at me with a claim that most female leagues aren't included, that's because of a major failing of every Wikiproject Football member on every level, whose biases on not documenting women's football is atrocious. SilverserenC 05:22, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Division 1 Féminine is included at the list of leagues, but is in the list of top-tier leagues that are not fully-professional, so she does not meet WP:NFOOTY. Number 57 13:07, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - fails NFOOTY and GNG. --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Article about semi-pro footballer who has played in France's D1 and for France's youth international sides. Le Mouël is the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources (I added a pair of references from Ouest-France and Le Télégramme to the article), and should satisfy the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 14:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further time needed to discuss the references produced.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 20:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - here is a table showing sources that go towards meeting the GNG. Jogurney (talk) 19:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://www.letelegramme.fr/soir/football-le-reve-bleu-de-margaux-le-mouel-17-06-2019-12313471.php Yes Le Télégramme is an independent newspaper Yes Regional newspaper in Brittany Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✔ Yes
https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/football/ea-guingamp/margaux-le-mouel-la-bretonne-championne-d-europe-avec-les-bleuettes-6463057 Yes Ouest-France is an independent newspaper Yes National newspaper of France, with the widest circulation of any French-language newspaper Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✔ Yes
https://www.letelegramme.fr/football/euro-u19-feminin-la-fulgurante-ascension-de-margaux-le-mouel-30-07-2019-12350870.php Yes Le Télégramme is an independent newspaper Yes Regional newspaper in Brittany Yes The source discusses the subject directly and in detail ✔ Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
  • Strong keep She plays in the top-tier league in France. (She has tons of coverage on that basis, too.) That NFOOTY argues for keeping tens of thousands of articles on one-game male players who could not pass GNG in a million years but tries to suggest that top-tier women players aren't notable isn't a problem with the articles or the topics, it's a problem with Wikipedia:WikiProject Football that needs correcting urgently. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 14:22, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep because the subject of the article passes GNG per Jogurney. I second others' concerns about NFOOTY's overinclusiveness for men and underinclusiveness for women, and intend to discuss this in the proper forum. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 23:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep On the evidence that has been provided and seeing that the articles do pass GNG per Jogurney, I would say that this article is defintely a solid keep. HawkAussie (talk) 02:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 03:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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