Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaretha Guidone

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep Arkyan  ^(talk) 23:35, 30 March 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Margaretha Guidone[edit]

Delete: non notable outside of Belgium. We can't have an article on every single participant in the Nairobi climate conference. The lack of international or even English references in the article is a sign of its relevance. Nick Mks 17:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep This AfD appears as WP:IDONTKNOWIT and WP:UNKNOWNHERE. Not having references in English or that are outside the country of topic orgin are NOT reasons to delete an article. If a topic is notable in a certain country, it is worthy of inclusion in English Wikipedia. Covering non-English language based topics is the fundamental goal of Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. On a side note, while the nom is claiming the topic is unknown outside of Belgium, many of the references in the article are from The Netherlands, which is a separate country from Belgium, and coverage in the 2 countries fit the definition of "international." --Oakshade 01:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I agree that a lack of English language references in itself is not an argument for deletion. However, if the lack is because there exist no English references, I feel it does say something about being notable. An English language Google search yields 101 hits, most of which turn out to be Dutch language after all, the rest from blogs and other all but primary sources. As far as internationalism is concerned, there is exactly one non-Belgian reference (from the Netherlands), which focuses on Mrs. Guidone's Dutch ancestry. Nick Mks 12:04, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep per Oakshade. Enwiki is an encyclopedia in English, not an encyclopedia of England, America, Canada, and Australia, and "Lack of English references" is not a sign of anything; I see multiple instances of non-trivial coverage (judging by the fact that the subject's name appears in the article in the lead paragraph) in reliable sources (judging by the fact that the source in question, De Standaard, itself has a Wikipedia article) from multiple countries. ~~Please do a bit of research before taking stuff straight to AfD --- why not ask a speaker of the language in question to read the articles???~~ Never mind, I see you are a speaker of the language in question. However, that doesn't change the fact that English sources are in no way a requirement for establishing notability. cab 04:40, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong keep. I've seen a lot worse articles. She's notable in Belgium and the Netherlands and is bound to become even more so. The article in the Dutch wikipedia was mentioned in the press, but en. wouldn't want it? Looks like she passes the Google test as well. She's not only notable for speeking at the convention, but for all here environmental actions, which is of course a hot pollitical topic.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: don't worry, my motives here are not political. Also, please don't take it personal that I nominated your article (I'm not saying you are, and I also didn't mean to suggest that it is a bad article). I'm only trying to help identify content that (I thought) was redundant. Nick Mks 15:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.